SPECULATION OFFICIAL Finn Discussion Thread

The saber on the Knight Trooper's belt, left pic, looks like the wampasaber to me.

 

Interesting. Makes me wonder what the relationship between Driver and Christie is. Could get hot. ;-)

 

I agree with Oola on a lot of details, I'm just not sure if there is a magical Sith Serum they're trying to make.

For no reason whatsoever I envision the Imperials chasing Boyega for one thing but our heroes think they're getting chased for another

 

Boyega's instagram is on fire lately http://instagram.com/jboyega

 

That matches the black and orange X-wing nicely.

 

isn't that a little short for an astromech droid?

i wonder if he'll have to pull that down at some point...

 

He went to a toy store / retailer.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R2-Q5

http://www.angelfire.com/droid/astromechs/page11.html

 

Some of the biggest mysteries of these Ep VII plot rumors are:

1) Why is Boyega defecting from the Empire?
2) Why is Gwen Christie chasing him? Is it just because he's a traitor? If so, why go to such great lengths?
3) Why is Driver's character chasing him (according to reports from Abu Dhabi set)
4) Why is Daisy helping him?
5) Why is Han helping him?

Could it have something to do with the lightsaber? With Luke? With the supposed superweapon?

@Kyle said it's because he's a Force user. But why go through so much trouble over this particular Force user?

The Boyega situation is making the characters' motivations at the beginning of this movie very mysterious.

 

Some of this would make sense if he was Lando's son, but would his son be a Force user, or even a stormtrooper. Maybe he's a republic spy who's cover gets blown and must escape.

 

Read Kyle's stuff again. That will pretty much answer all your questions. If his stuff is accurate, that is.

 

1) He was probably disillusioned to begin with, joining the Imperial navy has always been set up to be something a lot of people do, even Luke wanted to go to the academy and he "hated the Empire." The whole issue of getting chased by Driver was probably the nail in the coffin

2) I think Driver manipulates her, makes her think Boyega has sensitive intel on Korriban/Moraband that he is going to turn over to the Republic and that's why he fled

3) Think "death of the innocents" sort of deal, Driver is hunting down all force sensitives of a certain age to find "Skywalker's Apprentice"

4) Because she is a good person? Senses something in the force? Boyega has Luke's lightsaber? A couple things that could be happening here, depends on which plot rumors turn out to be true

5) Because Han needs to Daisy to go with him and she will only come if Boyega is as well, because Daisy = good person. Besides Boyega is a defected Imperial, imagine all the juicy secrets he knows.

 

@Kyle said Driver is chasing Boyega because he (A) can sense he's a Force user, and (B) thinks he's Luke's apprentice. But why would he think a storm trooper is Luke's apprentice? Something's missing here.

And the cantina scene described by @King3000 makes it sound like Daisy, Han, and Chewie have already arranged to pick Boyega up. If he just spontaneously decided to defect when Adam Driver attempted to kill him, how would they know to expect him?

Let's say Boyega's TIE fighter crashes and Daisy decides to rescue him out of the goodness of her heart despite the fact that he's an Imperial. Why does she then bring him to meet Han?

Not to mention: Where does the lightsaber come into all this? We've heard several different versions so far of how it might enter the story: Falling out of the sky, carried by Boyega, falling out of the sky alongside Boyega, and purchased in a junkyard or flea market. Any other possibilities?

 

A force sensitive can be anybody. In this case, Boyega happened to be a stormtrooper.
Chewie saved Daisy could be as simple as because she was asked to meet Han Solo. Who asked her to meet Han Solo? Maybe Max Van Sydow's character.
Here is what MakingStarWar has to say about the Tie crash:
http://makingstarwars.net/2014/10/micheal-ardnt-draft-become-less-relevant-star-wars-episode-vii/
If what they say is true. Daisy's character was not even supposed to meet Boyega on the desert planet. So maybe it is the lightsaber that trigger the adventure not Boyega.

 

I think it's a case of Boyega's the right age, he has nothing else to go on, why not give it a shot? He knows the apprentice is hiding somewhere and is young, so Driver uses his wealth and influence to go at this with the brute force method.

As for King's Cantina stuff, there is something we definitely don't have. To me it seems like at least one of his sources was an extra on the set, I may be wrong but that's how it looks. There's a point B between the Point A from Kyle and the Point C from King that we lack right now. I think the entrance of Han isn't going to happen as quickly as King makes it seem.

As for the lightsaber, I still feel it's discovered by blue alien guy, perhaps Boyega provides information about it. But we've had so many things going so many different ways about it I'm not sure where to go with it

 

Spoiler alert: I am insane.

Without further ado... opening crawl explains the galaxy's climate over the last 30 years. Turmoil. Remnants of the Empire have been in a civil war of sorts. The New Republic is still in its infancy but the chaos among the Imperials is not helping their efforts to solidify a peace treaty. Amidst this backdrop, a new threat emerges. A charismatic Imperial has begun to crush all opposition and grow his own private militia. It is said he has the help of a Force adept who has been training stormtroopers in the ways of the laser sword (groan, am I the only one that cringes when he hears sword?) But jedi master Luke Skywalker has enlisted the aid of his apprentice to sneak onto (insert new bad guy's name here... Please be Thrawn)'s super star destroyer and discover the source of his power.

TL;DR Boyega is Luke's apprentice, posing as a stormtrooper, discovers Driver is the source of the new military leader's might. Boyega discovers the Jedi artifact shrine. Recognizes his master's old laser sword, swipes it, high tails it. Driver senses a disturbance in the force. Chase is on. Boyega boobytraps the super star destroyer, steals a TIE fighter, crash lands somewhere. Ridley finds him. Helps him rendezvous with Han at the local bar... Old man Jenkins overhears laser sword talk....

 

I like most of what you have said even the charismatic Imperial (but not Thrawn he's EU and I doubt he'll be in it). Here's what i would change.

The Empire developed a special group of storm troopers that were all force sensitive, Boyega as a force sensitive was recruited, he was not Luke's apprentice(Also he wouldn't recognize Luke's old lightsaber as it was lost to Luke in ESB and all the art the blade has a blue color). Christie as the storm trooper leader also has a lightsaber. Driver is an aristocrat that maybe high up in the Empire and is also force trained(He wears a mask of some sort). He has come back to the Star Destroyer and Boyega overhears a conversation between him and Christie talking about some sort of underhand/sneaky/evil plan. This leads to Boyega wanting to get out. Recognizing an opportunity to leave he steals Driver's TIE and fires his weapons still inside the Star Destroyer that causes its destruction. He crashes because his stolen fighter was damaged also, Driver and Christie also escape. When Ridley finds him she also grabs a box that she believes is Boyega's. Turns out it was Driver's and it contains Luke's lightsaber. Ridley takes him to meet Chewie and Han and HAN recognizes Luke's old lightsaber

 

Nice! You fixed the insane slash inane parts of my speculation. Thanks. Your take makes perfect sense. "BUY THIS MAN A BEER!!"

 

Beer? What's beer? How about a Corellian Ale

 

I'll drink whatever you put in front of me. I'm like Mikey.

 

Maybe Boyega is playing more of the Leia character in the OT, where his motives have strong ties to the Empire and he plays an important role in the story, but it's Daisy who is the Luke Skywalker role -- she is the one who drives the story and is most relatable to the audience. Boyega as a rogue stormtrooper, while great and interesting, seems similar to how Leia was a Princess with political ambitions who wanted to get in on the fighting and the action.

What made Luke a great protagonist was the notion that he was just a farm boy with big dreams. That's something we can understand. Daisy seems more on that path. She is humble at the start of the story, but longs to be more...