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Official Finn Episode VIII thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by romall smith, Feb 10, 2016.

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Finn Force Sensitive in Ep VIII?

  1. He is not / will not be Force Sensitive

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  2. He is / will be Force Sensitive

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  3. Does not matter he dies in Ep VIII

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  1. Finn of Ren

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    Side kick supporting actor got his hands dirty supporting the main character or another supporting character that new to 9 lol.
     
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    it's just plain rude to keep referring to him like that
     
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    Well, he's certainly not a lead role.
     
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    certainly? in your opinion he isn't a lead role.

    screen time in TFA: 35mins 25seconds
    screen time in TLJ: 18mins 45seconds

    that's almost as much screen time as Leia had in all 3 of the OT movies, and almost as much screen time as Han from all 3 of the OT movies.

    do we call them "side kick supporting actors"? no.

    there's a difference between giving a personal opinion about a character in a movie, and being so p1ssed off about either TLJ/TFA or that characters progression that people resort to mocking or degrading them. it happened all throughout the Finn thread in the TFA section, and all 400+ pages of this one.

    i'm fed up with it - that's my personal opinion.
     
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  6. Andrew Waples

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    But he is a supporting role though. He supports Rey, Poe, Leia and Kylo. It doesn't matter how much screen time he gets, that's irrelevant.
     
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    i'm sorry Andrew, but i literally don't understand what you mean by that. :)
     
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    I'm saying that he's not the focus (for lack of a better word) compared to Rey, Leia, Poe and Kylo. Hence, he is in a supporting role.
     
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    as with everything.. these things are based upon our own opinion.

    we don't all see the characters and story the same as each other.. the last year has truly proven that if it was ever in doubt.

    we all had expectations going into these movies, and when those expectations aren't met.. we begin to see the movie/s in a completely different light to others.

    in my opinion Finn is no less important than any of the characters you named, and only Rey has more screen time.
    in my opinion the Canto bight section was not a waste of time like others have said... he was trying to save the rebellion. in my opinion Finn was beyond brave to take up arms against his former captain (Phasma), and in my opinion he was a hero to offer up his life for the rebellion on Crait.

    it's just my opinion.. it's not fact, because there is no fact about the importance of Finn's role... in my opinion.
     
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    I don't disagree about Canto Bight either. I mean, with that logic going to Cloud City was a waste of time.
     
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    But Han and Leia were not lead roles in the OT either. They were also supporting roles.

    Luke is the central character of the OT. It's his story. The others are supporting roles and part of sub-plots. You only have one central character, or it's not a central character.

    Well I don't think it's fair to classify Finn as a supporting character to ALL of those! Especially when most of them are themselves supporting roles.

    If the ST is the story of Rey, and if she is the central character, then ALL of the others, including Poe and Kylo and Leia, are supporting roles just as much as Finn. They are all equally supporting characters to the lead character of Rey.

    Just because we have an opinion on which character we like the best, it doesn't make them the lead. Even if the actor playing the support has the most charisma, that still doesn't make them the lead. But it does maybe lead to them to having central starring roles in other films. As was the case with Harrison Ford.
     
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    LOL, I remember when Boyega posted a picture of the "blaster" that he never used in the movie... and pictures of the biohexacrypt that was never mentioned in the movie and played as part of a joke when it appeared. In fact, go back and look at all of Boyega's instagram prior to TLJ. He is a team player, he had me sold on something great in TLJ and it was anything but.

    So I will take his instagram photos going forward with a grain of salt. It won't be what he alludes to. Best to level set expectations now.
     
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    What is she leading that we are suppose to follow? What's her story? Just because she has the force doesn't make it her story. Based on two movies so far. Rey doesn't have much of a story to tell. She was hanging around Finn and BB8 with the intentions of going back to Jakku. She was only involved due to circumstances beyond her control.
    Then TLJ comes along and ignores Rey is the lead as well. Rey plays second fiddle to Luke and Kylo. She helps Kylo more than the Resistance, and her purpose became Kylo. If she is suppose to be the hero. Where are her heroic moments?
     
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    not in any version of Star Wars i ever watched. Luke was not the center of my Star Wars. Star Wars for me was always an ensemble story..

    for me, the ST is the story of Rey, Finn, and Ren Ben. everyone else is supporting. that's how it's set up in TFA, and that's how it plays out in TLJ.
    the problem is some people think to be a lead character you have to DO THE BIG THING. that's not really how stories work. when Luke DID THE BIG THING in TLJ, that doesn't make him the central/lead character; he never was (and even then some people argue he didn't even do a big thing even though he faced down the entire FO with a laser sword and bought time for the Resistance to live to fight another day). so eh. people can kvetch all the want about who the lead is and what defines them. for me Star Wars is not about individuals, it's about a team and how they work together. even the PT demonstrates what happens when you break the ka-tet. 100 credits to the first person to get that reference. : D
     
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    Well I did choose my words carefully and did say 'if' Rey is the main character...

    That's not relevant to whether she is the main character or not. Many a main character can find themselves in a situation accidentally.

    "Main character" and "hero" are not necessarily the same thing. A main character does not have to be a hero or do heroic things.
     
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    He lies a lot to sell the movie, I think deep down inside he was trolling RJ with those post because he knew his character was not going no where in 8, and even said something not being please how Finn turn out to be in 8.


    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 18, 2019, Original Post Date: Jan 18, 2019 ---
    Sorry Super Hype Sidekick Supporting actor, that with more respect.
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    Listen for right now John Boyega portraying Finn has more screen time than Lando. Lando was in two star wars movie , The Empire Strikes Back , and the Return of the Jedi, and he has more of a develop character who truly is a diverse character that George Lucas add in the movie. It was said that George wanted Han Solo to be a black person and Billy D William went for the part of Han instead George gave him Lando. It was said that he changed his mind about Han being black because in the late 70s most American families would not accept that on the big screen a Black Male with White Female Lead that is Leia. So George gave Bill D the Lando part, he is a well written character for a diverse supporting actor.

    Now Finn will be in three star wars movies he has more screen time than Lando but less development, and this is the difference between George Lucas, and Disney LucasFilm. Finn has more screen time but less of a development and in 8 was put to the side and a lot of the scenes that was cut from 8 was from Finn because he not important character to Disney Lucasfilm and they dont know what to do with him. They diss him and cut his scenes because they wanted to push Reylo. Finn whole purpose is Rey, lack of writing very very poor writing.


    The issue with Finn is a Disney Star Wars poor writing and lack of writing a story, along with keeping the story coherent about Finn and putting him to the side and not developing him due to GENDER POLITICS and not making Finn look better than the main Hero, because he a man, but puts him in the story but on a short string just because of diversity sake. It would been better they made Finn the main hero or Jedi, but this goes against Disney Lucas Film Gender Politics, and making sure the audience do not leave eye sight on their Mary Sue character Rey. If you say no, why you think in 8 they treated Luke very poor because everyone want to see 8 just to see Luke Skywalker again so they had to destroy the known character of him, to push Rey their Gender Politics.
     
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    And yet, even with the nonsense, I still like Finn over Rey.

    He actually struggles, thinks, and has a personality.
     
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    It's harsh but it's the truth. Finn is a sidekick. The story is about Rey and Kylo.

    I remember when people were thinking he would be force sensitive lol. Sad how things turned out for Finn.
     
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    WRONG
    He is deuteragonist Of this Story or Not Hello Kylo Ren is Still the Villain get your facts straight
     
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    It's interesting to see how the arguments have evolved and continued to ebb and flow since TFA came out. I remember when the argument was Rey, Kylo and Finn were the new Big 3 (somehow Poe wasn't apart of that equation). And then I remember arguments about how important Finn was to the ST, until he wasn't that important in TLJ and it was justified because "the story is about Rey and Kylo". There never seems to be any consensus when it comes to Finn.
     
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