Official Finn Episode VIII thread

Finn being force-sensitive could also explain why Phasma gave up so easily and turned off the SKB shield. Perhaps Finn had unknowingly used the Force to influence her mind at that moment? Right now that TFA scene just makes Phasma looked like a coward.

 

I believe the very last scene with Luke and Rey was shot by Rian Johnson. JJ originally had Luke speak, but decided it would be best to wait for TLJ and let Rian Johnshon do his thing

 

Sorry of someone has already posted this:

I think he has force abilities and will become a jedi.

• Finn's original title is FN-2187, which is also Leia's cell number in A New Hope. That number was used in ANH and I believe in TFA as a reference to the film (21-87 by Arthur Lipsett) that inspired George Lucas to come up with the idea of the Force.
• After Finn's friend dies at the beginning of TFA and he refuses to shoot the innocent people Kylo Ren stops for a second to stare at him. This could be because Finn didn't shoot, that Finn is standing there not very stormtrooper like, I like to think that Ren stairs at him because he thinks he felt something in the force from him (I do realize this point is pretty thin)
• Finn cracked the First Orders brainwashing
• From legends, Kyle Katarn, a Stormtrooper who defects, becomes a Jedi. I wonder if Katarn was the inspiration for Finn.
• As Finn is about to board the smugglers’ ship, after leaving Rey, Han, Chewy and Maz he hears screaming. Although we’re led to believe that those screams are from nearby Takodana denizens who see the destruction in space, we don’t see anyone else outside of Maz’s castle—and Finn’s companions don’t turn around. This makes me think he felt a disturbance in the force.
• Maz who is force sensitive tells Rey to take the lightsaber because it calls to her, she feels that connection in force also tells Finn to use the lightsaber, so maybe she feels the force in him as well

 

He may become a Jedi, not sure yet, but as for Kylo stopping and staring at him he expresses the reason later before their duel when he calls him a traitor.

 

I hope he gets to say something at Han's funeral.

 

more like bio-hexawhat

 

Finn hears the screams of the people of the Hosnian system through the Force:

the scritp of the movie:

"Finn boards the Alien Freighter. The SOUND FROM THE SKY makes him turn back. He sees the PATH OF FIRE and his blood runs cold, his heart sinks."

what if in Episode 8 and 9 he's "formed" by Maz? She's not a Jedi but "knows the Force", he could become something like Chirrut in Rogue One, not a Jedi but a warrior attuned to the Force.

 

These are people on Takodana.

 

why the script says "sound from the sky"? And the screams are too intense and too many to be people around him, and are strangely similar to the screams of the people on Hosnian Prime...



He says "I always thought it was people of Maz's castle" and not "This is the people of Maz's castle", maybe he wants to hide the fact that Finn is force sensitive because it will be a twist in Episode 8/9.

 

TFA Sound Editor Matthew Wood:

swinfoground: Pablo Hidalgo claims - Finn: Takodana
swinfoground: Pablo Hidalgo claims - The Force

 

It's impossible for me that the screams are from the people around him, look this video at 6:40:

Finn also hears the impact of the Starkiller Base beams on the planets before it happens !

 

It was a mistake. Finn isn't supposed to be force sensitive, Rey is.

 

We will see in december 2017 and 2019, remember that the original trilogy has plot twists "I'm your father", "Leia is my sister, she's also Force sensitive", the sequel trilogy will also have plot twists on the main characters.

 

This isn't so much an issue of twist as it is of plot beats and story structure.

 

You know this just sounds like a more sophisticated way of saying there is only room for one Jedi protagonist like the OT........

 

There weren't any. But TFA isn't ANH.

TFA goes out of its way to remind everyone that Finn isn't the "True Hero". In every way that Rey is forthright, competent and smart Finn is weak, ineffectual and stupid. TFA makes sure to ensure that Finn is consistently portrayed as a jabroni: He is the wrestler that goes in the ring to get his ass kicked. No more, no less. Or to put it another way: Finn serves the same narrative role as Krillin. Specifically DBZ Abridged Krillin. In fact he's arguably worse. Finn is basically a cheerleader who gets slapped every time he tries to get in the game.

Rey is an extremely flat character who only has one thing going for her: Her role as this series's Jedi(tm). Adding in Finn as a Jedi takes that away from her and leaves her with what exactly? Some barely defined backstory that, if indeed Luke is her father retroactively turns Luke into a worse father than Tywin Goddamn Lannister, and some kind of connection to Kylo Ren that doesn't mean anything because we don't have any reason to care about their relationship.

Finn at least in theory can grow without being a Jedi. He has the stuff about being a former stormtrooper that you can explore, and if it is explored it will improve the overall story in Ep 8 without interfering in the story arc of any of the other characters.

In this version of the sequel trilogy there is only room for one Jedi protagonist. There could've been more, but they chose to write these movies in a very specific way.

 

This may be a rehash of an discussion I already had, but I wanted to bring it up again.

I mentioned in the TFA Finn thread that what we have learned about the new trailer (combined with some concepts that have been advanced in Rogue One and Rebels) had me concerned that Finn wasn't FS.

I have maintained that he didn't need to be a Jedi as I assumed that slot would naturally be taken by Rey. But if the title of the next movie is the Last Jedi, I am reconsidering some things.

For those of us who are fans of Finn we have seen a plethora of context clues that he will be FS (if not a Jedi going forward). No need to rehash those here. But watching the movie again, I remark at how often they show Finn taking to the Light Saber, and how they highlight it like it not a mere aberration but a story point... a strange thing to do if it wasn't decided he would wield it. Truthfully I think we all know they said they left the question open so that the Rian Johnson could write with freedom.

But I note that the movie ends with Rey wearing Grey (sometimes used as a descriptor for someone who is neither light or dark) and Finn ends the movie wearing white (more often associated with traditional Jedi). Is it possible that Finn becomes the last of the old order Jedi and Rey becomes the future of the new order Jedi (which is less dogmatic in it's detachment views)?

I know people have wondered if Rey could go dark, the only place she could possibly do it is in this episode, the Trilogy couldn't end with her turning to the dark side (well I guess they could but it would be immensely disappointing if they did). If Luke fails with Rey, maybe Finn becomes his last hope to resurrect the old order). Pure speculation, but the thought crossed my mind recently.