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SPECULATION OFFICIAL HAN SOLO DISCUSSION THREAD

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Echo-07, Aug 20, 2014.

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Han Solo dies?

Poll closed Apr 2, 2016.
  1. Yes, he is as good as dead

    44 vote(s)
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  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    8.3%
  3. will be a cliffhanger as to whether or not he is gone.

    11 vote(s)
    18.3%
  1. Echo-07

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    I've been a big Han Solo fan since day one. He was the one I connected with immediately the first time I saw "Star Wars" back in '77. I've always felt like ANH really starts cooking once Han and Chewie are in the mix, and at the same time I've always wished that Lucas had written a meatier character for him in ROTJ.

    I have no idea what to expect from him in Episode VII. I figure we'll see him have at least one last save-the-day flight in the Millennium Falcon, and perhaps he'll have been serving the Rebellion/Republic in an official capacity for so long that he'll be just rusty enough at freighter piloting to add some tension and humor while he gets himself back in the saddle. (Here's hoping for no threadbare "Have ya noticed I'm OLD?!" jokes, though...)

    And yeah, I do think we'll see him die at some point, possibly in Episode VII. My hope is that he goes out in a blaze of glory, sacrificing himself (and possibly the Falcon) with one last grinning war whoop. But there are plenty of other ways he could die, of course, and it will likely be something different than anything I've thought of. As long as it's a worthy death... I think Han has certainly earned that.
     
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    No inside info here; I've read all the leaks and stuff but only because, at this point, I don't really believe any of them might be closer than "getting warmer."

    From the rumors I like best and my own imagination, I'm imagining that Han is retired, but not enjoying it. When it becomes necessary to find/rescue a long-absent Luke, he jumps at the chance against his better judgement. The idea I have is that some Darth Vader acolyte (or possibly just a Vader hero-worshipper) has been going around impersonating him (or otherwise making people think Vader is back). I'm not sure how many people throughout the galaxy would know Vader was dead - he'd survived ONE death star explosion, after all. No one but Luke knew for sure, and only Luke knew that he'd turned back to the good side (and Luke probably wouldn't tell anyone that, as he might not want it generally known that he was related to him). I can even imagine the empire keeping up a fiction that the Emperor was still alive. People may or may not believe it, but wouldn't want to take any chances. I'm gonna feel really bad for Luke if he's been holed up on Tattoine this whole time. I never believed he could really get the urge for excitement and adventure out of his system. But any way you cut it, he's gotta be the empire's public enemy #1, and might have disappeared to keep his friends safe.

    So, with word of this "new" Vader going around, Han (who always WANTED to believe Luke, but has heard the same things as everyone else), takes on the mission to find the one person who would know for sure, and gets far more than he bargained for..... The other night I had a dream where Han and the new people had been captured in some Imperial hangar, then realized that one of the impounded ships was the old Falcon, then used some trick he knew about it that no one else did to escape. That sounds plausible enough as a plot point, though it's worth noting that in that same dream I was playing a Jedi named Sylvester, and was filming scenes without having the faintest idea what the plot was. And Adam Driver was playing a droid.
     
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    That's funny, Adam. I had a similar dream not long ago about being onstage with the Grateful Dead (yeah, I'm one a' them thar Deadheads) and hadn't the foggiest idea as to how to play my ol' gee-tar. ;)

    I like the idea that the galaxy believes that Vader is still alive, and that somebody has been running around in Vader's armor impersonating him. Not sure exactly how that would dovetail with the galaxy-wide celebration in the SE ending of ROTJ, but I tend to think that it would make sense - as you say, it would be perfectly easy to con people into thinking that Vader survived the destruction of a second Death Star.

    And yeah, I agree that we'll probably see Han in either a semi-retired state or serving in some high-level official capacity with whatever the Rebellion has become, and the search for Luke (assuming that's the actual story) will be the excuse he's been waiting for to get back into action again. (Not entirely unlike Kirk in Wrath of Khan, actually... which then makes me wonder if they might not try and do something a little different with Han than what we're thinking.)
     
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    You know, I've had the EXACT same dream about being Bob Dylan's new guitarist. I played awfully, stopped in the middle to talk to a guy in the front row, then couldn't for the life of my figure what what Bob thought of me.
     
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    It is quite morbid but if Han dies I hope it is worth it...something like in the movie Independence Day? A last heroic act that saves people...

    But his death will be for sure a historical thing to remember...
     
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    If/when Han dies... I will cry for sure :(
     
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    DreamBob: "Ehhh... I wonder if I've still got Charlie Sexton's number?"
     
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    Solo made the franchise...my favorite line is 'I ain't in this for your rebellion!' The dynamic of his uninvolvement then key involvement and unlikely heroism is why we love him so much. It is the American ideal of redemption found in the unlikely person. We all want to be Solo as men and know that he can take on unlikely odds and win.

    It would be interesting to play the dynamic about his inability to finally 'hear the odds' from C3PO and embrace the reality that sometimes you have to face it that you can't always dodge death. I could see him being similar to the character of Obi Wan in IV passing on his knowledge to 'daughter' Ridley and her learining about smuggling and 'shoot first' mentality (flying the Falcon). Perhaps he saves Luke and Leia making a desperate attempt of heroism against the 'Vader like Evil' and in the closing moments asks Luke to train Ridley (she may not be a Jedi in VII).

    This would persuade Luke who I believe will be disenchanted with the current situtation of the state of affairs (being a hermit for some 10 yrs prior to VII), to rejoin the cause of training Ridley at the End of the Movie (becoming a surrogate father) He would be the equivalent now of Yoda moving forward and then in 8 he could exit stage left at the beginning. Place the events a couple of years down the line...Ridley completes her training in a remote world with Luke. Falcon continues on...

    Just a thought
     
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    As much as I enjoy the roose of Vadar having survived I don't think it will happen due to the scale of the parties at the end of ROTJ and gossip always spreads even in a galaxy far far away. I do think it will be a new threat though and I do think it will be Sith/dark Jedi. Going off topic slightly I can see the aim of the trilogy heading towards 'restoring balance' and neither the Jedi nor Sith winning (thus actually having balance).

    I think Han will have an official role in what the rebel alliance is now and I think he will die at the end of episode VIII, in a heroic form. I think his son will be a younger version of himself in that he's a bit of a maverick/rogue. I don't think he'll be a jedi, contrary to popular belief. the daughter however, maybe ...
     
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    Han Solo will be a general like in endlers game. ;)

    To be honnest I hope Han Solo will be more a scundrel like type than a military type.

    Let him fly around the galaxy in the falcon.
     
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    I hate to say it , but I have a feeling that the only way Harrison Ford would agree to return. (Besides his deal to reprise Indiana Jones) would be it they killed off Han Solo.

    To me that's very predictable and rather unnecessary. For the most part it doesn't work out when franchises kill off iconic characters. It took Star Trek nearly two decades to return to mass popularity after killing off Captain Kirk + the only way the series survived was when the series brought back Kirk + Co.

    I don't want Episode VII to be like going to a friends funeral.

    If they are going to just kill these characters off I for one wish they wouldn't make the sequels.
     
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    I think it would very interesting to see the death of Solo, But I fine with him surviving ep7 as well. Which ever way JJ decides to do (as long as he does it well) I'm fine with it.
     
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    When the "new trilogy" news spread across the web I didn't want any of the original actors reprising their roles. I imagined a younger cast reprising the roles s.a. Star Trek has succeeded doing, or better yet begin with a all new characters. Ford's aging Han can be a vehicle to introduce us to the plot, but it's Luke and his struggle to re-organize the Jedi or seek out ancient evil is far more vital and should take precedence over anything else!

    What do you guys think?
     
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    If I were a writer of Ep VII I would think twice about killing Han ... I would do it only if it were a clear and unforced consequence of a well-written story. Killing Han is something that Abrams and LF will not take lightly.
    Personally, I agree with who believe that his death is too obvious and I would prefer a different story.
    With regard to the major role that Harrison seems to have in ep VII, I have nothing against it, but I suppose and hope that Luke too will have his time in the movie. Or is Luke to have a bigger role in ep VIII?
     
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    If Daisy Ridley is Han's daughter and Oscar Isaac is some how associated with Han, Han's death could start a relationship between Daisy and Oscar. Reminds me of han and leia's relationship with the age gap between them.
    Hope they don't kill Chewie with Han though.
     
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    I don't think they're going to sacrfice anyone for the sake of Han Solo. I think it's just a simple case of Han Solo having the correct read on the situation and perhaps the villain. Luke and Leia and Chewie will all be integral IMO as they serve as the connective tissue to the entire future of (Disney's) Star Wars. IMO Luke should survive the trilogy and maybe his death in Episode IX sets up the next trilogy. ;)(luke)
     
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    I believe Solo will be the connection to the main plot of the movie and the sub plot both in terms of character connection and between the trilogy franchises. The main plot maybe Luke or it could be a new character, but either way the old will be used to set up the new. How they get there is the big question.
     
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    I think that given that Ford begged to be killed off in VI could be a fairly good indication that he's sick of the whole thing, but then, realistically, you can't argue with the money he's probably being offered to do VII. I just hope he's able as an actor to appreciate the opportunity for what it is and not go the way of Sir Alec Guiness and say that he'd "wish [he]'d never done it."

    I sincerely hope that it's a death with a point to it and not completely unbelievable and infeasible like Darth Maul's. However, I can't see any other way out of the story for Ford without Han being killed off. It's not like Han could defect to the Empire after having a tiff with Leia, take the Falcon and never be seen again, because Rogue Squadron would be sent out to bring him back, given that he knows too much. It'd be like Jack Bauer defecting to China. :eek:

    I do, however, quite like the idea that Han and Chewie are cruising around the place in a Star Destroyer. I bet that old hunk of junk has a fair few hiding places for smuggling! (star destroyer)
     
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    I'm totally down for what ever Disney plans for the old cast, lets move on and get to the "meat" of this new trilogy: the new cast.
     
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