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SPECULATION Official Jyn Erso (Felicity Jones) Discussion

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Iluvatar, Feb 3, 2015.

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    I just realize something: Why would the rebels use Jyn to put together a team to steal the Death Star plans? What (other than the fact her father developed the main weapon?) is her experience and training? "She rebels!" Well so do MOST people, but being rebellious is NOT a characteristic that lends itself to successfully infiltrating and stealing top secret military secrets. Not only that, WHY would anybody follow her? Her age? Military experience? A plan that had a possibility of succeeding? The Force? What? I just happened to think about it while watching the last trailer and thinking: She should be older!
     
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    If you read the Catalyst, there is a good indication that after the Empire found the Ersos, she ended up with Saw Gerrera. She is about 8 in a trailer and according to Mon Mothma alone since the age of 15. So, she could have spent 7 years with the extreme Rebel.

    And why should she be older? Leia was 16 when she was delivering ships to the Rebels.
     
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    It just seems a little odd that rebel soldiers would be willing to follow Jyn in battle when she's about half their age. It seems like somebody would give her that age old line: "I was fighting the empire long before you were born!".
     
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    Yeah that's a big suspension of disbelief and remembering its a GFFA kind of thing. I have to tell myself not to ruin just about every movie coming out these days with a little 100 lbs something teenage females kicking the ass of adult males in addition to teenagers-early twenty somethings being put in charge of military operations by taking them seriously. Its about as realistic as light sabers, hyperspace, the Force, etc.
     
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    I feel we lost the capability of truly pure enjoyment in the fairy tales. No one questioned a 19-year-old destroying a death star, 19-year-old leading the Rebellion in 70s and 80s.

    This guy followed Leia and a smuggler on Endor and he could probably be her grandfather:

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    It was probably easier because we were that age ourselves give or take a few years at the time.

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    I know and I'm trying not to ruin R1 for myself. It's just that I could see her leading say a group of misfits in their 20s-30s that the rebels don't want to use. That I'll buy, but when you think about it, the rebels were pretty desperate; made Han Solo and General and Luke a Commander, neither had any military background so I guess they would follow Jyn.:p
     
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    Exactly, plus it's not like she is alone, leading this thing on her own, Cassian is there and he seem to be pretty high up in the Rebellion.

    Also, we haven't seen the film yet, her connection to Galen might not be the only reason. I still feel Saw is a major one. The Rebels might not like him, but he gets the job done and if she spent her formative years with him as I suspect, that's enough cred.
     
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    Didn't Han have some military training and was at least in his 30s though granted that was still a stretch? They seemed to hand out rank, but no actual authority though pretty quick. All we see Han doing is leading maybe a platoon or even company sized element at the maximum which would translate into the 1st Lt or Captain rank in RL military rank. So the rank and actual presented authority was way off. Luke too didn't really seem in charge of anything except maybe the aerial assault on Hoth which again real world might translate into a CPT rank range. The biggest jump to me was letting Luke go from a teenage nobody to flying a top of the line fighter with seemingly zero training. But again it was the GFFA so it was not quite as cringe worthy.
     
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    Women and shoes ...

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    Because of her dad's involvement in the mission itself. And Cassian is technically leading the operation, not her. That's the shortest answer that I can give you.
     
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    Did her dad develop the weapon for the Death Star? Because I thought that the Geonosians? designed the Death Star and it's weapon.(death star)
     
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    It's because of her connection to the empire so her role in the rebellion is crucial and she is pretty much a pawn...but a really powerful one..
     
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    The Geonosians presented the actual designs of the Death Star itself, which the Empire built, but the superlaser itself was not finished for a long period of time. The idea is that Galen Erso is capable of making the planet-destroying cannon work, and he's forced to cooperate by the Empire to use his research for evil ends. (Which is why he sends out a distress signal of some kind to the Rebellion, as they're the only group that can do something about it.)

    The weapon itself taking a while to make is actually consistent with existing continuity. Rebels establishes that Lothal is involved with a five-year plan for a project that is almost certainly involved with the Death Star's construction, and given that it involves Kyber Crystals (which power the cannon), it can be presumed that they were still working on the actual offensive capabilities of the battle station at the time. It's also why you can see a superlaser prototype on the unfinished Death Star in Revenge Of The Sith...

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    ...Yet there's a scene of the Empire plugging the weapon into the otherwise-complete battle station during Rogue One.

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    Building and maintaining operations on the Death Star was the easy part, and bear in mind that this is a task that requires millions of laborers and administrators. The challenge came in with building the component that the battle station was designed for, and integrating it into the existing system. (Hence why the Empire is able to just rebuild the damn thing to an operable state in a mere four years.)
     
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    Thanks! Now that brings up another question: Just how long did it take to build the Death Star? Because we can see it's construction at the end of ROTS but it's not complete until SW?
     
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    19 years ;)
     
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    DANG!:confused: But, that's why I think these "stand alone" films are going to be good; it causes me to think about things that have never crossed my mind before...I'M SO FRIGGIN HYPED!!!:D
     
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    The thing about the construction is that it was constantly interrupted. Again, what was happening on Lothal during the time of Rebels had a hand in delaying the DS-1's completion.

    There's some kind of excuse as to why the Death Star II was ready at a much faster rate in spite of the Empire's greater focus on the war effort, but I'm not sure what it is. However, I can tell you that the plan was for the DS-2 (which would lack the weakness of its predecessor) to destroy the homeworlds of Gial Ackbar and Mon Mothma after blockading them both to snuff out any further insurgencies against the Empire, effectively sentencing their populations to death.
     
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