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Official Kylo Ren/Ben Solo Episode IX Discussion

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by The Last Deadeye, Dec 16, 2017.

  1. panki

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    Kylo is going to have a hard time keeping the FO in order with Hux plotting in the background.....Kylo is very powerful but I don't think he was as powerful as Snoke, needing Rey's presence/assistance to distract and finally kill his master.... now that he is Supreme Leader, will he be under pressure to marry into one of the FO former imperial aristocratic families to consolidate his power? Even Palpy had Sly Moore as a consort of sorts.

    I wonder how Rey will react to something like this happening or will she be too zen and focused on being a jedi?
     
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    What other things is the FO working on besides hunting down the Resistance? We only see them doing that in the movies, but they're such a large organization that they must have other things going on. Will Kylo take a stand for the environment, or perhaps pursue tort reform?

    In truth, I think he will be so obsessed with destroying the Resistance and finding Rey that the other socioeconomic and political elements of the FO will suffer from neglect, causing the FO to break apart from within. Systems will start defecting. I'm not sure Kylo will care.
     
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    it's really hard to say at this point and that's exciting! he was so focused in TFA (and especially in the novel). his politics were very clear and it was obvious he had an "endgame" for the galaxy. now he clearly just wants to burn it down--and yeah, his priorities for the moment seem to have shifted to Rey and the Resistance.

    i'm really looking forward to seeing the state of the galaxy in ix! : D
     
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    I'm having a senior moment here- is Kylo Ren's true identity common knowledge in the FO? Does Hux know that his new boss is General Organa's son?

    I know that Snoke brought it up a few times in both TFA and TLJ but my memory is that Hux was already out of the room when it was discussed. Everyone else in the FO who would have heard Snoke make a reference to Ben Solo is now dead.
     
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    Dear JJ, just watched Force Awakens again and it is still so damn awesome. Love that you gave Kylo two signature force abilities that set him up for epicness. Mind invade and force freeze where awesome touches to the sw universe. Really bummed me out that the RJ did not utilize either of these awesome abilities. Please make sure that you make up for this and bring them back in IX. Thanks, Legend Knight ;)

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    Also seeing these two gifs really make me miss the epic mask that the previous director obviously hated so it would be pretty cool to see the newly anointed Supreme Leader put his helmet back on!
     
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    The hood and helmet together look awesome and intimidating. They need to come back.
     
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    I disagree. I know that Kylo still needs to go through a lot of character development, but returning to the mask would mean that as a character he'd be set back to square one. I know that mask is cool and all, but Adam can be intimidating by himself. ;)
     
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    IMO unmasked Kylo >>>> masked Kylo. And there's no way they're going to put it back on him, it would be a huge step backwards. I hope J.J. will stay true to all the developments of TLJ.
     
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    He should rather bring back the Knights of Ren. But if he uses mind invading and force freezing again, then he would be more intimidating. He could definitely need that as Supreme Leader.

    I thought about that too. But I think it's for the better if he doesn't use a helmet. Furthermore he destroyed it to let the past go. It would be inconsistent if he uses a helmet again. JJ could go for something much more cheesy: a crown. Haha!

    Unmasked Kylo >>> masked Kylo.
     
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    If TLJ taught us anything, it's that these movies can be unpredictable. Saying that, I'm going with the obvious.

    Kylo can be redeemed if he choses to dismantle or fight against the First Order. He killed Snoke not to become Supreame Leader, but to save Rey.
    Kylo told Rey to let go of the Resistance, because they are just as flawed as anyone else. However it is a bit hypocritical if he cannot let go of his own power trip, and let go of the First Order. If he can realize that then he can be redeemed. It will take someone like Rey or even Force Ghost Luke to show him. But people don't like to be shown there own flaws, so he may go the opposite direction, and become the evil ruler he wants to be.
    Ben became Kylo, because that is what people expected him to be. Luke thpught he had become a monster, so that is what he did. If Luke can show him he was wrong, and appologize to Kylo, that would be the first step.
     
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    As much as I love Adam Driver's face, I miss the mask, too!
     
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    What do y'all think is the possibly that there's a time jump and there's no First Order? How would Kylo Ren run the First Order? At the very least it would seem like General Hux would attempt a coup to have Ren removed. This is probably too nuanced of a direction for JJ to take, but it's difficult to see the First Order as a stable occupying force for 3-5 years with Kylo Ren in charge.
     
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    Ren will be officially in charge, but the people behind him are actually running the FO. It's like in real life. The leader isn't doing anything. Haha!
     
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    yeah, i think the FO can run on its own with or without Ren (which is precisely why Hux can afford to overthrow him).

    though maybe they will end up bonding over their mutually horrifying experiences with nanny droids. : o p

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    I think Kylo will have a heart attack as soon as he sees R2 or 3PO. Too many bad memories of terrifying droids. Haha!
     
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