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SPECULATION Official Luke Skywalker Episode IX Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by DailyPlunge, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. Trevor

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    Now as we're setting up for IX, I'm kind of torn between the "short vs long" time skips between films, meaning that I initially wanted to see Rey's Jedi training (See; Luke and Yoda in ESB), but on the other hand, I expect that THAT will take too much film time and get in the way of the story that only has one more film to conclude the arc...SO I expect that we'll see a relatively substantial jump, Rey will be a Jedi (or close to it) and then we'll have Luke showing up like Ben did and dishing out some advise.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 5, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 5, 2018 ---
    I would like the same thing, and am also of the camp that thinks "Luke got burned in VIII", and as an OT fan, I'm relatively pissed about it. I mean c'mon, with the exception of him on Crait, Luke Skywalker was treated poorly and then just "killed off" at the end of the flick...REALLY??

    However, just like you said, how would they justify reviving him...it would be like the dimensional/time travel that was introduced in Rebels, but it might be done without sounding too contrived with some serious thinking...MAYBE.

    Do I want Luke back? Yes, but not the "Geez, the Jedi suck and I hate the universe and I just wanna die like a hermit" Luke, because it was lame and gave lousy closure to "Alive Luke"....which is what I will never forgive from VIII.

    But anyway... :)
     
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    The time travel/dimensional thing seem to be a staple of STU and would just open the main story to a whole lot of issues. ST kind of used as a copout when they wanted to just blow away anything the new writers didn't like. If they do this it will just throw the chance for Luke's already bad ending to get hammered to death in so many more ways. This is where SW definitely wins over ST! Only good thing that would ever come out of time rifts would be Darth Yoda.
     
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    THAT'S IT!!!

    (Via Rebels) We saw Luke being pulled out of time by Ahsoka Tano through the time portal...well maybe! :)
     
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    You know what is on the other side of that time portal. images9LUKM8DO.jpg
     
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    So much win.
     
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    yeah, a force ghost cameo of Luke with no importance to the story is just super lame and the last nail in the coffin for old fans who wanted a fitting solution to Luke's character. What a shame. :(
     
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    The time jump seems obvious, but I'm curious how they'll handle force ghosts in IX. Are they just gonna say Luke has been visiting Rey? The idea of Luke helping Rey and a team of new students is intriguing, but I'm not sure that would work with all the other characters who demand screen time as well.
     
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    Quite a small and petty thought: but why does Lukes metal hand disappear with him when he becomes "one with the force"?

    Is it just that the director thought it looked better that way or that he didn't think about it? Or is there a genuine reason?
     
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    Exactly. Also, we saw Luke (presumably) die and pass into the Force, but "we're" the only ones that saw it...did everyone else feel it or are they oblivious to the fact, and is Rey gonna get the bejeezus scared out of her when (and if) he shows up in FG form...what about that??
     
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    Rey & Leia know that he has passed into the force & interestingly it wasn’t a sense of sadness that they felt but that of peace & purpose. So yes we will almost certainly get to see Luke as a Force Ghost. If we get to see the first time he shows himself to Rey I’m not sure it would be nice but then that would probably mean we won’t be getting a larg time jump.
     
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    Without news of recasting, any time jump would mean maximum of 5 years?
    I say maximum of five years because has anyone seen people in the 30's look at their own pictures from five years ago?

    Beside, The Alliance to Restore the Republic defeated the Empire after 2 big battles? (Endor and Jakku). At that rate, I'm pretty sure the Resistance will mop up the FO in no time. No time jump needed.
     
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    Five years actually works really well. Relatively no time passed between TFA/TLJ, but when they start shooting IX this Summer it will have been four years since they started shooting TFA.
     
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    I think they are gonna make Lukes first appearance of the film seem like big deal, i don't tink they are going to go down the route of Lukes been hanging out with Rey training the students.
    I'd like to see Rey having students to, but that might not be the route JJ decides to go down, it would be quite a complicated thing to do on screen. Like you say their are a lot of characters who want screen time, so introducing a load of students and making the audience care about them would take quite a bit of set up. If you are going down that route you also have to spend quite alot of time on the Knights of Ren/Kylo students to set up their opponents. Then their is the issue of the last time the audience saw Rey she was basically an untrained not even apprentice who just had raw power, they would have to spend time establishing her as a sort of master and how she got to be a master, but this could if done badly massively exaggerate the mary-sue accusations. Plus then like you say you have to give Luke some time, you've got to give Kylo an arc, Finn, Poe, Rose, deal with Leia , not to mention come up with a fitting plot. Im not saying this is impossible but it would be quite a hard thing to pull off and could become more convoluted. JJ may decide he wants to go down the simple route of a simple story of Rey vs Kylo.

    I think everyone is in agreement that a time jump is the way to go though.
     
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    I don't want Luke to appear to Rey. I want him to appear to Kylo. Hell, I want Luke, Han, and Leia to appear to Kylo at the end but sadly that won't happen.
     
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    "It really has tarnished my ability to enjoy it to its fullest," Hamill shared with ABC News of Fisher's passing. "You were asking earlier, 'Are you gonna come back?' I don't care anymore, on that level. Because Han Solo is gone, Luke is gone. You just can't get the band back together the way you wanted it to be, and it shouldn't be that way. It is what it is. Rather than being sorry that we can't have more of her, I'm just grateful that we had the time with her that we did."

    http://comicbook.com/starwars/2018/04/10/star-wars-mark-hamill-episode-ix-carrie-fisher/
     
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    I do wonder, if doing all the press work for the DVD/Blu-Ray releases of the Last Jedi has dragged up again all the emotion (for all concerned) about losing such a close friend. Perhaps coinciding with what may be Mark Hamill's last performance as Luke (in The Last Jedi) could stir up a whole pool of emotion.

    I suspect that this story will get endlessly mis-quoted, without the appropriate context, in the next few hours. Ho hum.
     
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    His quote makes perfect sense. A close friend passed away and Star Wars is always going to be a memory of her. It's a shame people keep spinning his words to fit their desperate agendas.
     
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    One of my favorite things about Mark Hammill is he truly understands the appeal of Luke Skywalker. A clear example of this is when he talks about Luke's sexuality and how the ambiguity of that topic, opens Luke up to be whatever the audience chooses to project onto him. It's eloquence like this that has always had my deep admiration about Mark. He just seems to get that Luke Skywalker is not Batman, he's not a swashbuckling, snide-talking alpha-male hero (the kind so many who hated Episode IX seem to want him to be).

    I love Luke, along with Doroty from Wizard of Oz, he is my favorite cinematic character. And one of the reasons he comes across so beautifully on screen is Mark Hammil's performance. That performance is greatly enhanced by Mark's thorough understanding of what makes Luke Skywalker so unique in American pop culture.

    He speaks truth and he's a real gem. Can't wait to see what he does in Episode IX and very confident we'll get to see him perform in the next film.

    Long live Luke Skywalker.
     
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    It was not mis-quoted. Here is the video for it. I don't deny that he was probably caught by emotions.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/video/rare-chat-family-star-wars-icon-mark-hamill-54368183
     
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    Still, is understandable since he lost a close friend, and he thinks that his character has fullfilled his role. About the misquote nightangel, he is talking about the context of how he says it, clickbait articles and people that hated the movie will take it that he hated the movie to support their argument
     
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