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Official Luke Skywalker Episode VIII Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by nightangel, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. Bluemilk

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    I'm wondering some of the rumors back before VII about Luke will make its way to VIII.

    Like as in Luke is guarding something. Luke acts crazy and he very powerful. I can't remember the exact rumors.
     
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    I heard about that too, maybe he is trying to deter Rey from thinking he will be able to train her, playing down the stories of his legendary days.
     
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    Just being around Luke is a form of training. Rey's extensive training may not come until after VIII, because of the lack of time that elapses between TFA and VIII. We could see Rey as a Jedi in XI as we've seen Luke in ROTJ.

    Luke had been looking for Jedi temples apparently since after ANH. In the comics he locates one on Vrogas Vas, that he learns about from a holocron in possession by Grakkus the Hutt in his collection of Jedi artifacts on Nar Shaddaa.
    Grakkus.PNG Jedi artifacts.PNG
    On the galaxy map that Pablo Hidalgo tweeted where it showed where the missing piece was, Luke's path started on Nar Shaddaa.
    Galaxy Map.jpg
     
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  4. nightangel

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    I expect that Luke may act a little 'crazy' in the beginning like Yoda in ESB to test Rey and even reluctant to train her. I think a good comparison for his appearance may be Mr. Miyagi from karate kid movies. ;)
     
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    These are great points. I'm going to put on my speculation hat and give it a go of where I think they might/could go with these

    1) I think he probably is there meditating a communing with the Force trying to get a better understanding of it and where he might have gone wrong during his training of Ben and the other students

    2). I don't think Rey's lineage has any correlation to being important enough to be trained. She is important enough to be trained because she is very strong in the Force and the Force is leading her to him no matter what her lineage is. If he has been communing with the Force as I speculate in #1 then he would realize It is the will of the Force to train her.

    3) This is a great question. I suspect that he is going have some initial reservations about training her. We know Frank Oz was at Pinewood and there are rumors a Yoda puppet was made. This points to a good chance we see Yoda in VIII. If that is the case, then Yoda is the likely one to convince him to train Rey.

    I do think we will see some training of Rey. I just don't have a clue how much of the movie it will take up.

    Once again, great post.
     
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    Luke wont die, not until episode 10. Have a look at past movies, quo gin dies ep1, obi wan ep 4, solo epi 7. Name another main character( on the good side ) that has died in the other movies.....So, in short, a main character ( on the good side ) dies at the begining of each triology. i'm just hanging out to see luke use his lightsaber.....bring it on
     
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    Yoda in ROTJ. ;)

    But something else and here is a quite new promo for Pop Culture Quest with Mark. :)
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    Thanks @Alex Sebire ! What's your take on it?

    And thanks again! I agree here, and good point about Rey learning by just being around Luke. I want to say he takes the time to be patient and will train her right, but the state of the galaxy may dictate otherwise. At the same time, it would be like Luke leaving Dagobah early to go save his friends, and we know how that went. Soooo I really can't figure this one out.

    I guess my point about "Is Rey important enough" had to do with the assumption that after the fall of Ben, Luke could have immediately started over with new recruits. Granted they probably wouldn't have been as strong as Rey. And good point about the force bringing them together. No matter who she is it does seem to be destined.

    I also think a lot of why Luke is there has to do with why Ben Solo succumbed to the dark side. It's the only logical answer right now. And it would be the only thing important enough to leave everything else behind, in my humble opinion.

    Good thoughts so far everyone!
     
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    1) I would have to assume he seeks some knowledge from the Jedi of old that was lost over generations. For all we know, Snoke may be some ancient evil imprisoned by the Sith millennia ago.
    2) I do believe Rey is Luke Skywalker's kid. As I said elsewhere, he may have had her not out of love but as some kind of backup plan to preserve the order. This could bring about an interesting dynamic between the two, with Rey trying to know him and Luke rebuffing her attempts. The Star Wars films are about family, and this would give us something new to explore. It would also explain why Luke never sought her out if this is the case.
     
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    Very interesting take, I don't think I've heard that one before. And I never considered him having a kid not out of love, but of... duty, in a sense? At first I wanna say no way, that's not in Luke Skywalker's character. But you make a good point.. and Leia has lived her life putting duty ahead of her own interests, so I wouldn't say its too farfetched for her brother to do the same. It still just seems very... cold. Right now I'm having a hard time believing Luke could have a child and not really care for her. But in a way, it seems kind of like the ultimate sacrifice, right?
     
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    Well Jedi are told not to have attachments, so I thought this is clever way around that rule, if it still stands.
     
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    I also cannot believe Luke would become so cold, but it is indeed an interesting and original thought. It would also bring in a lot of drama beween Luke & Rey. But maybe this is just the halftruth and Rey may later learn that Luke indeed loved her mother, but was forced to leave them alone for savety or other reasons. Or he never knew he had a kid.
     
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    I saw this theory posted as a comment for this youtube video..


    By: Shenikahiruni Vasanthathilaka
    What is after learning about Luke been the son of Darth Vader, his students turned on him. Maybe even plotted to kill him But before they could do anything Ben stepped in to save his uncle and killed those students, possibly with the help of a group of friends that didn't feel the same as the others. After that they become the knights of Ren and Luke Skywalker blamed himself for what happened. Because indirectly he was the reason everything happened..

    I like this theory. I like that it dosn't seem like the usual He Became 100% evil and destroyed everything. We all know that Ben is struggeling with his feelings about the light side, that could be because he still feels remorse for stading up to Luke and killing his former students. Snoke then saw what Ben was capable of and took advantage of that by convincing Ben that he had done the right thing by killing Luke's students..

    What do you guys think ??

    EDIT!
    Sorry wrong thread, this is more about Ben than Luke. Can a mod please move my post to the Kylo Ren thread ???
     
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    He wouldn't be that crazy to do that for Kylo
     
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    I also cannot believe that Luke would kill his own students, that is completely out of character for Luke. :confused:
     
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    I completely agree with you guys. But my post wasn't about the actual subject of the video but rather a comment made on the site below the video.. And like I said, that comment/theory was more about Ben/Kylo Ren than Luke. That is also why i want my post to be moved to the Kylo Ren thread rather than keeping it here, so that people would know that I have no interest in discussing the actual video topic.. ;);)
     
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    I think it's fine here because it has spawned a good theory about Luke. Besides, it's impossible to talk about Luke without eventually getting Rey, Ben, and others involved! Afterall, the reason Luke is on that island is almost inexplicably tied to Ben/Kylo. At least in my opinion!
     
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    Fair enough, so unless a mod moves it lets keep it here then.
     
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    I also think it is fine to keep it here and the idea of the students of Luke turning against their master is quite original and I never heard this idea before. So maybe Luke gave into his destiny and decided not to fight his students, but Ben may have decided different. That would be quite an interesting twist.
     
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    Interesting theory. I can see Luke actually using his saber in defense for sure. I'm almost wondering if Ben "pretended" or acted like he was defending his Uncle to throw Luke off and killing fellow students, only to turn on Luke himself and catching him by surprise.

    Still, There is nothing that confirms that Luke was there or not. Hmmmm.. almost like there's too much mystery to the mystery box. Hope in the new year, they start to drop some clues.
     
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