Official Luke Skywalker Episode VIII Discussion Thread

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It is strange that Snoke isn't on the poster and that he has blue eyes.

Could Snoke be Luke's dark side and he tricked Rey and Ben to gain the ultimate power ?

 

What if the the raw power Luke is afraid of now is the power he learned about and what he could actually harness? Not Kylo, Rey or Snoke.

The reason I bring this up is because in the trailer when he is saying that he is in the force tree. You can see the symbol. I think he learned something he fears.

 

Curiously, when Luke speaks that line about fear, he looked scared. But when he says "it does now", there is almost a bit of anger in there. A sort of... "If I try to argue with Luke and get him to stay and train me, he may kill me"

Also, I heard someone say what if Snoke is Luke's dark side..how is that possible?

 

After watching the new trailer it got me thinking about Luke a lot.
Most of us were really hoping to see a really powerfull Luke Skywalker in the sequal trilogy, but wat if he just isn't that powerfull?
We never saw him doing any really amazing stuff in the OT, and he is scared about the power of Rey, Kylo and maybe Snoke in the ST.
I really hope we will see Luke in action again, and see this all powerfull jedi, but I think Disney is really going for this new generation stuff and make Kylo and/or Rey (potentially) stronger than Luke will ever be. Its kinda a bummer but on the other side kinda logical..
From potential spoilers we heard that Luke was going to fight the Knights of Ren and Kylo on Anch-to but if you analyse the trailer (when you hear Luke saying this is not going to go the way you think and the part were you see his hand coming out of the remains of the Jedi temple) it seems like Luke lost this battle years ago.
It is going to be a really interesting new view on Luke, I hope this won't ruin the character we know and love and that he will have a heroic moment in the movie.
I'm really open for the "new generation heroes" because I really like the new characters, but please dont kill or ruin the Luke Skywalker we all love.

 

After Rey departs the island, I think Luke will say that line about how the raw power scares him to Force Ghost Yoda/Ben, then decides to go save her. He can then put on his dark robes and choose a lightsabre

 

MSW discussed this scene a while ago (and again after the trailer was released) and all I can say is...wow

Apparently it's not a force back to The Knights of Ren scene from TFA and what happens leading up to that line is pretty shocking in terms of why he's angry/lying down.

Can't wait to see it on the screen and find out what happens leading up to that scene.

 

Luke Dies.

 

It causes issue with contonuity. Ren is afraid of never being as powerful as Vader. Luke matched Vader and Vader and the emperor saw him as a threat. He's only grown since then. So yes. Luke should very well be the strongest force user. If he isn't, well, just another issue.

Fortunately, the google doc spoilers here can put our minds at ease

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Where do they discuss this? Their site is too big and it says check back for analysis. From what I see, they havent processed or discussed it after the trailer

 

Noooooo! Jedi transcend death.

 

A while back on the podcast and also on yesterday's released podcast where they discussed the trailer scene by scene.

 

Ah I figured during the podcast..bummer. I'm not gonna listen to the whole thing

 

What if Luke is referring to himself?

 

I totally agree with this. What if the jedi slaughter didn't happen exactly as we think. What if luke accidently caused a lot of damage, which made it easier for ben to kill everyone?

 

Rumour: The legend of Luke Skywalker book synopsis gives very interesting possibile clues for mysteries to be revealed in TLJ!

Here the rumoured synopsis is:

Spoiler: The Legend of Luke Skywalker synopsis

The book opens with the Rey quote from TFA about her thinking Luke is a myth. On the Wayward Current, bound for Canto Bight, crew members tell stories about Luke Skywalker. The first one is about an engineer in a bar on Xu’hu giving a comical ‘truthful’ retelling of A New Hope after being prompted by a hooded figure. After the story is finished, the hooded figure turns out to be Luke. It’s set some time after he disappears from the public eye, but it isn’t specified when.

The next story is Luke on Jakku from the point of view of an Imperial who served on a Star Destroyer. He tells an impossible story of Luke dispatching capital ships in space with his lightsaber and the Force. After the Imperial’s Star Destroyer crashes, he is recovered from the wreckage by a mysterious figure who drags the wounded Imperial across the desert, picking up salvage from the battle and searching for other survivors. The Imperial begins to suspect that it’s Luke and attempts to escape, but the figure finds him and tells him that if he tries to run he’ll die in minutes. The figure wears clothes noted to look like Luke’s and talks about growing up in another desert. The figure tells the Imperial that he plans to deliver the Imperial to an Imperial stronghold beyond the dunes. They reach the stronghold, but it has been cleared of all traces of Imperials by now. The Imperials abandoned it during the battle and blew up everything, including laboratories, to erase all traces of what the facility had been. The two stay there, trading with passing scavengers. The Imperial becomes certain that the figure is Luke after he rescues the Imperial and a group of scavengers from a disaster caused by a reactor leak from a crashed Star Destroyer, but the man doesn’t confirm the theory and gives the Imperial a homing beacon to call the Empire before leaving. The Empire tells the Imperial that Luke Skywalker wasn’t anywhere near Jakku and throws him out for being a traitor, so the Imperial returns to Jakku and becomes a scavenger, now having faith in Luke.

Next, an escaped stowaway slave tells a story set on the faraway oceanic world of Lew’el. A young pair of twins, native Lew’elans, hunt for food to feed their village. A strange foreigner saves the girl, Aya, from a storm that kills the girl’s mount. The man had come to Lew’el to study with the natives, having heard ancient tales of their strange connection to the ‘Tide.’ The man quotes Yoda’s “Do. Or do not. There is no try.” to one of the elders. He says that he has traveled the Galaxy seeking others sensitive to the ‘Tide’ and understanding of its ways. The elder tells him he can stay for the night, but must leave in the morning. The man, called Seeker, tells stories of the Jedi and the Force, and about asteroids belts that house giant slugs, and cantinas, and jungles, and city-worlds. The children are sent to bed and Seeker and the elder discuss the Tide and the Force. They debate and Seeker quotes Yoda again. Seeker passes trials to prove himself worthy of knowledge about the Tide. He continues to indicate that he is Luke by talking about things like X-Wings and Beggar’s Canyon. Seeker barely fails the third trial, but learns as much about the Tide as he would have learned if he had succeeded. He says his farewells, gets into his X-Wing with a blue-and-silver dome chirping on top, and flies away to seek out other aspects of the Force he can learn from.

The ship’s custodian droid then tells a story that has been passed from droid to droid around the galaxy without change. On Cro-Akon, a construction droid is stolen by slavers. The droid, Zeta, awakens on a ship filled with other captured droids, bound for the Unknown Regions. They dock on a space station called the Gem, where the captain tries to sell them to the station. One white, silver, and blue astromech manages to slice through one of its restraining bolts and catches the interest of the buyers. The world below the station, just called the Deep, has valuable materials in its interior, but the surface is inhospitable. In order to maintain their lifestyle, the nobles of the Gem put droids to work on the Deep. Because of acid and heat, even construction droids don’t last more than a few months. Zeta is put to work as an enforcer to make the other droids work, with an override chip forcing her to do her job. R2-D2 tries to cheer up the other droids as they are brought down to the surface. They are put to work and Artoo refuses to give up hope that his master will rescue him. One day, a strange, bulky protocol droid is delivered and put to work. The droid turns out to be Luke in disguise, there to rescue Artoo. Luke and Artoo get the override chip out of Zeta and lead the droids in a revolt. The nobles are overthrown, all of the droids are returned to their homes, and Luke and Artoo leave.

The fifth story is told from the point of view of Lugubrious Mote, a mole-flea who lived on Salacious Crumb. We read the flea’s exaggerated telling of Return of the Jedi, starting with Luke’s hologram to Jabba. The flea speaks with Leia the night before Luke shows up, and jumps into the rancor pit to help Luke and prove to Leia that she can be an ally. In the flea’s telling, Luke is much more useless and relies on Mote’s help to defeat the rancor and escape the sarlacc. After the escape, Leia transfers the flea to a woolly hopwell beast and the flea travels around the galaxy before joining a circus.

The final story is told from the point of view of a scientist, then a biology student trying to do fieldwork in the Agoliba-Tu system. She catches a ride to the system in an A-wing piloted by Luke. Luke asks her if she had ever seen any ancient Jedi ruins, as he is trying to learn as much as he can about them. The two of them accidentally wander into an exogorth, the same species as the one the Millennium Falcon had been stuck in years prior. They wander deeper into the slug, encountering a variety of unique creatures that live inside of the beast. They get out with the sacrifice of ancient beings known as Mist-Weavers who had been stuck in the beast themselves for an eon. Luke and the scientist part ways.

What do you think? I found very interesting to find Luke

Spoiler: Spoiler

on Jakku : this could be a great clue about Rey's abandoning on that planet.. I think now that Luke's involvment in all this is almost certain.

 

That is interesting. I was wondering if there would be something to link Luke with Jakku. Now we have him there, meeting ex-Imperials and scavengers. Again, it mentions the secret facility there. And then of course we have it as the launching point for Palpatine's contingency plan, the giant Force, Lor San Tekka's home and of course where Rey ends up with the Falcon.

It's worth noting that Rey isn't abandoned on Jakku for another 15 years after this story of Luke being there.

 

Are you referring to the rumored battle between Luke/Rey and the Knights of Ren where supposedly a lot of cablework was used?

 

Anyone remember a rumor months ago about Luke riding or meditating on a rock and flying around? Noooo...I don't believe that exactly but what if it was partially true? Meaning...what if Rey is meditating as in the trailer where Luke is behind her and the ground cracks and it breaks away and just floats in the air?


One thing we know now according to the trailer anyway...Luke was there at the academy or temple when it was destroyed. That brings up many questions.

 

Yeah, I remember that rumor. I also remember when people thought the rock next to Luke at the end of TFA was a gravestone.

It does bring up many questions. I, for one, only hopes that we'll get to see the complete flashback scene in this film. If they are planning to drag this one out, keeping the conclusion of the flashback scene until Episode IX - then they're going too far. You can't split an important flashback scene into three parts in three different movies and expect it to look good in retrospective. It will come off as teasing just for the sake of teasing.