Official Luke Skywalker Episode VIII Discussion Thread

Obi-Wan went to confront and fight Anakin. He then kept Anakin’s son safe and watched over him until the time was right. Luke tried to kill his nephew before he did anything.

 

The moment is portrayed as a fleeting consideration of Luke's though. He virtually in an instant visibly changed his mind.

 

I would add that it was also while he was inside Ben's mind seeing the destruction, I would say the link being still connected allowed the thought to come more easily, after it was severed so was the thought.

 

Luke did not try to kill his nephew. Enough with this crap.

Yes. Destruction, and seeing/hearing all of his child students being slaughtered.

Thinking for a moment that he should stop it before it can happen, is not unreasonable in the slightest.

The Luke/Kylo hut confrontation is not a problem with TLJ, or an inconsistency with Luke's character.

 

Well deserved.

 

He went into his tent, loomed over him, armed himself and ignited his lightsaber. Call it a “fleeting moment” or whatever, but he went in there armed and ready. Sorry but it does not fit with the Luke that was established in after ROTJ.

 

Difficult to disagree.

 

Especially in this case, you need to quote/address the entire post, and not just the part that works for you.

 

Really the only thing that could properly explain Luke's actions would be if he was reacting to something that did/would happen to his family - a family outside of Leia. It really doesn't add up otherwise in my eyes. Why wouldn't he just be like, "well Leia, I tried, but it's just not working out" - then ship him back to her with a comfortable padded cell ready until they dealt with Snoke. Why feel the need to kill him, unless Luke discovered he did something....... looking at things I still feel like Rey could be something more to Luke.

 

You mean the same Luke that went full rage and almost killed Vader when he provoqued him telling him his plan to turn Leia to the dark side in the throne room? Skywalkers always were prone to the dark side (even in the legacy stuff of the EU). The dark side can seduce you not only once, but several times, and it is in the Jedi to resist it's call. I think that you just assumed that the Jedi is only tempted once by the dark side and that it will be the end of it.

What I want to say is that it's not the first time that Luke has shown weakness towards the dark side, so I do not see how this does not fit the ROTJ luke, as you mentioned.

 

But that would mean he learnt nothing from his encounter with his father and the Emperor.

 

I would add that as this is such a devisive matter of debate that the scene is far from a conceptual success.

 

Not necessarily, like the other user, I think you're also assuming that the Jedi is tempted once and that event what he learns will serve to resist future temptations of the dark side, I do not think things work that way. What happened to him in the throne room, as with Ben, were mere lapses of weakness in which he was put to the test, and this test was much more difficult than the previous one. At least the two were able to resist, because in the case of Ben, he stopped and felt ashamed of what he did, but in the latter case it was too late, as his nephew woke up (already being influenced by the dark side) and attacked him.

In any case, not always what one learns can be applied in a new difficulty, since although they can be seen as similar events, the variables are different. As Yoda said, Luke was always focused on the future and not the present, and that was precisely his weakness, he let himself be carried away by the fear of what his nephew could become and the damage he could do to the galaxy.

 

That's not my assumption. In fact, now I'm completely unsure about Luke after TLJ which is a b i t c h, really. At the end of the day, anything can be, and has been, written and anything can be explained away by the dark side on the whim of whoever is writing and it just feels messy and inauthentic to me.

 

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/23...ywalker-in-star-wars-according-to-mark-hamill

 

It's far from a conceptual failure for those who actually acknowledge all aspects of the scene.

 

Does the novelization reveal anything more about the scene, anybody who has read it?

 

Yeah!