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SPECULATION Official Rey's Parents/Family Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by KyleK, Dec 23, 2015.

  1. master_shaitan

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    I think Luke is gonna be he father just so they can use him abandoning her as drama for the story.
     
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    I'm for the Luke being the father of Rey. The more I think about it though she may just be a child left on Jakku for Luke to take back to the Jedi Academy. Here is a theory I posted in another thread.

    One of my guesses is Rey's parents knew who Luke was and knew their child had a "gift" and arranged for Luke to train her after dropping her off on Jakku. Luke was to take her to the Temple but this is when the Temple was destroyed and he never made it to Jakku.

    So by this plan being altered Rey was stranded on Jakku and Luke gave up and went into hiding. This could be why Rey thinks Luke is a myth.
     
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    Having read all of your posts, it's obvious that you are 100% convinced that you have discovered the 'Holy Grail' of the new trilogy. It's also obvious that you are shocked that we all can't see it and in fact are disagreeing with you. The issue isn't whether she is Han and Leia's daughter, that's certainly possible. However, the way in which you think it all comes about up to and including your two 'reveals' are not only wrong but, in a few cases, it's impossible.

    First is your idea that Luke and Leia's convoluted and manipulative plan is to save the galaxy by sacrificing her children for it. Sending one into exile on a harsh outer rim planet to live alone and in isolation while leaving the other to languish in grief believing his sister is dead and under the control of a dark side master who corrupts him into committing unspeakable atrocities until the time is 'right'. The problem is that you are ascribing Machiavellian philosophies and thought processes to two characters that have never had any before.

    In the OT, Luke and Leia routinely ignore the greater good of the galaxy for sake of someone they love such as Luke refusing to stay on Dagobah to complete his training because his friends were in danger even though he was putting the galaxy in danger doing so or Leia trying to convince Luke to flee Endor rather than face Vader even if it meant losing the upcoming battle and the destruction of the rebel alliance because his safety was more important to her.

    There's also your idea that the writers, directors and producers would set out to make a trilogy whose purpose is to essentially thumb their noses at their core fan base and that Lucasfilm and Disney would go along with it. Franchises won't survive pissing off the core fans. After all, Star Wars, like any other franchise, is a business. One Disney purchased with the intent to make money on. Thumbing their nose at the fans would be shooting themselves in foot as it were.

    Then there is the fact that your idea is too much of a rehash of the PT. The fact is, the PT wasn't very popular (although it's pretty obvious you seem to like it). Both Disney and Lucasfilm have made it pretty clear they plan to steer clear of the PT. As a result, it's unlikely that much, if anything, from it will be used or referenced in the new trilogy.

    Finally, your 'reveals' are simply impossible because:

    1) Rey knows who she is.
    In the novelization Rey tells BB8 that she is a big secret, not a mystery, but a secret. Throughout the movie she is secretive about who she is and never indicates she doesn't know who her parents are. She avoids giving anyone any information about herself beyond the name she goes by. Even when she's alone with Maz Kanata, someone who seems to have some answers for her, she gives no indication that she doesn't know who her parent's are.

    2) Kylo Ren knows who she is and Rey knows he knows.
    Throughout the movie, Ren suspects something about her from the moment he is first told about her. The purpose of the mind probe was probably to confirm his suspicions as much as obtaining the final piece to Luke's location. However, there was a mental shield blocking him from both pieces of information that he was unable to get through. But, just before their duel when the lightsaber flies to Rey, Ren says "It is You!" at least in the novelization (which is canon).

    Take this for what you will.
     
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    If you are talking about when her and BB8 meet for the first time after he tells her he's "classified", I took that as a tongue in cheek comment. Nothing more.
     
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    If that was all she said then it might not have been a serious comment but she goes on to tell him he can keep his secret and she'll keep hers indicating she truly does have a secret rather than having no clue who she really is or where she came from. Also, when we meet her, she has been waiting patiently for a long time (14 years) not searching for answers. It's made pretty clear throughout the movie that she's waiting for someone specifically one or both of her parents. If she didn't know who they were, how would she know if they showed up. More importantly, why would she stay there patiently waiting if she had no clue who she was waiting for? There isn't a single moment in the movies where Rey shows any interest in learning who she is (which she would if she truly didn't know) but, in fact, does the opposite and avoids the subject whenever it comes up. If she didn't know who she is, there would be indications the she was yearning for those answers and there weren't any. Someone yearning for those answers would've sought information when given an opportunity like when she was talking to Maz Kanata but instead she asks her nothing but seems to already know what Maz is referring to. She may not have any memories of them due to how young she was when she was left on Jakku but she clearly knows who they are and who she is but was likely instructed not to tell anyone when she was left there.
     
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    See I get a total difrent take on this for me rey is told by who ever abandoned her that they will come back for her which is why she is waiting for them to come back & show no intrest in wanting to level Jakku & find our more about her previous life. Just because she thinks there her parents she is waiting for doesn't mean that the people she is waiting for are her parents.

    So if she dose have famous parents then she is unaware of it & is just trying to be frendly to BB8 with those lines
     
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    I'm not disagreeing with you about her parents. I just think it was an off hand comment and I didn't take as anything else, that's all.


    If she isn't Luke's daughter, my thought on who she is is 5 posts above this one. I could be way off though.
     
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    It's certainly possible she could confuse the person(s) who left her with her parents over time in terms of their image replacing her real parent's image(s) in her mind but, at five years old, she would be old enough to know and be able to remember her real name as well as her parent's real names. Thus, she might not have any actual memory of them but would know who they are. Of course that's only if it wasn't one or both of her parents that left her there. If one or both of her parents were who left her there, there would be no one to confuse for her parents. She might also, as she got older, have started to wonder or have moments of doubt that she really is who she thinks she is or was it only a five year old girl's fantasy that, at some point, she came to believe was real. That could also explain why she later said she thought Luke was a myth (If he turns out to be her father).
     
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    Pablo is such a troll.
     
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    I think it's more that he can't/doesn't want to talk about the future using his platform. He often says something along the lines of 'that's for future stories to tell, not tweets.' So he sometimes answers questions with other questions or raises questions that the audience should be asking itself.
     
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    Absolute great point and that many people forget.

    Rey knows who she is.
     
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    Luke and Palpatine's granddaughter made Rey while Luke was on Naboo researching his mom's history and family. Luke didn't know. Snoke didn't know. Rey's mom was being hunted and hid Rey from both Luke and Snoke on Jakku.
     
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    Hey guys, big fan of the site and Resistance Broadcast. New to the forums, and hope to talk Star Wars with all you fine folks. Had a theory I thought up, no real evidence to support it, but thought I would share.

    Rey was born to Force-strong parents on Jakku. Once their daughter started showing strength in the Force far beyond their own, and after years of hearing rumors from passing pilots and scavengers of a hero from the Rebellion trying to reinstate the Jedi Order, they leave Rey in the care of Unkar Plutt, telling her they will return one day. She is about 5 or 6.

    After many close encounters with the Imperial Remnant and charlatans claiming to be Jedi, they find Luke. They don't immediately tell him of Rey, fearing he was a fake or Imperial, instead seeking only his training for themselves which they could pass along to Rey. After years with Luke and Ben, and some times with Han, Leia, and Chewie, they confide that they do have a daughter back home, though only entrusting her location to Luke, as Ben has slowly started falling under the influence of Snoke (this is piquing Luke's worst suspicions, that some of Vader is still in Ben). Rey's parents die when Ben falls to the Dark Side, at his hands when they refuse to tell him where their daughter is.

    Luke travels to Jakku. He watches Rey from afar, sensing that she is indeed very strong in the Force, nearly as strong as himself and Yoda, despite her ignorance of the Force itself. Because it is far too dangerous to bring her off-world, what with the rise of the First Order and Snoke's Knights of Ren, Luke entrusts Rey's safety to an old ally from the early days of the New Republic, Lor San Tekka, as well as the final piece of the map to his location, telling him that should the day come that he is needed, that is where he can be found.

    When Han eventually meets up with Finn and Rey, and hearing she is from Jakku, he starts suspecting that she might be the daughter of the two Force-wielders he once knew, all-but confirmed once he meets up with Maz Kanata. Kylo Ren discovers this to be the truth when he is fighting with her on Starkiller Base, hence the line "it is you, isn't it?" from the novelization (and film, if I'm not mistaken).
     
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