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SPOILER Okay, let's talk about Vader

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by thrawn_lives, Dec 15, 2017.

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    Or another one of Snoke's lies. He did influence Kylo with his mind all his life. This'd be easy for him.
     
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    Force Ghosts Anakin and Obi Wan can appear young as a ghost to Rey now that Luke is out. Wouldn't have made sense for Luke to see a young Obi Wan ghost. In the context of Rey it makes complete sense. I think Rey is a Kenobi and Kylo is a liar.
     
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    Anakin first, and then Luke. Now that Snoke is dead, maybe his presence acted as a barrier for force ghosts to approach, and Grandfather Ani can finally come and give his sole surviving descendant all the Xmas and bday presents he owes him.
     
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    When Yoda showed up, I seriously gasped. Rarely do I physically react during movies, but that took me by surprise. (Though I had a gut feeling Yoda would show up, Frank Oz was at the premiere). I was waiting for Obi-Wan and Anakin to show up, but they didn't, which also took me by surprise. (I thought that they would have had all the ghosts together at once, like in ROTJ.)

    Heh heh, I was honestly kinda expecting Anakin to show up when Luke was about to set fire to the tree. Would've been ironic. :)

    In all seriousness, I'm starting to worry that Anakin and Obi-Wan won't show up in Ep. 9. I can see why, because Obi-Wan would be a tad inconsistent and young Anakin next to old Luke wouldn't feel right. (With makeup and CGI, I think that it could potentially work.) I think having Anakin appear with, at least, Kylo is a necessity, for all the parallels they're doing between the two of them. Heck, Kylo overthrowing the Supreme Leader is a parallel to what Anakin was planning to do in ROTS with the Emperor.
     
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    It started with Anakin, it stays with him. Kylo clearly couldn't carry the mantle forward.
     
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    It's certainly plausible that Snoke was manipulating Ben by pretending to be the ghost of Vader.

    But I hesitate at letting "Snoke was in his head" be the explanation for every Ben Solo flaw.
     
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    Whaat? Yoda couldn't have no kids? Him and Maz used to go together like 800 years ago.... 900 years old you know how many kids, grandkids, greatgrandkids he might have???
     
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