SPECULATION One KOR as the main villain

another way this could work is if Ben calls them back to re-purpose or disband them.
from what we know, the KOR are acolytes of the Sith.

Ben named the Sith in his "let it all die" speech.
we also know he's self-conscious (maybe even turned off) from his affiliation with grandpa because of the fishy-eyed toilet monster's chastisement.

so they may find in him a traitor and adversary as well.

 

I think the main villain has to be Kylo Ren (or Snoke, if he's not dead yet). I'd hate to have a completely new character top cap off the baddies of the trilogy.

That being said, I would love to have the KOR in the film as lesser villains. We could probably see them fulfill a role similar to the Praetorians in TLJ- though maybe this time Rey is fighting against Kylo Ren, too. We've never seen a single Jedi take on multiple saber-armed enemies, if anything it's usually the other way around.

 

This.

 

Knights of Ren are going to be cool as a collective villain, but I don't think making one of them the main villain would match the epic scale of IX. And I want KoR to remain as faceless as possible, no humanisation. Basically just really badass henchmen. I wish they remained mysterious.

I would love to have them vs Kylo as the climactic fight (if he turns), but full-on Rey vs Kylo is much more likely when it comes to the big duel of the film. Kylo and Rey vs KoR would be great, but I think that's too similar to the Praetorian fight and I guess the filmmakers would want to avoid the similarity (I wouldn't complain, though).

 

Treat them almost like the Black Riders from LOTR

 

For me, Kylo is the main villain. The Knights of Ren are his hammer to break the wheel.

 

I like that analogy! In terms of presence - absolutely. But I'd push their role a bit. Make all of them like the Witch-king.

 

Not to put words in your mouth, but is this the difference (other than the obvious good/bad clash)?-

Nazgul work often in a group, or in groups. Rarely seen alone (at least in the films.

Arthurian knights often break off into their own quests, working alone or with underlings.

Because if we'd had the KoR for the full trilogy then the Arthurian model would've been great. But I think EpIX will already be pretty crowded without giving the KoR much individuality.

Or did I completely misunderstand the analogy?

 

I think Kylo will train even more KOR's and we could see massive battles against Rey and her Jedi.

 

I guess it ultimately comes to- do we want the KoR to be encountered multiple times in the film, individually? Or do we want another big "Throne Room" scene?

I agree, I'd really be down for either. The former is probably more original for Star Wars, but I find it hard to argue against more of that Throne Room business other than maybe it'd be derivative at this point.

 

I hope KR haves a "something" with the female Knight. I'm sure 1 is female. I just dont want the Skywalkers 2 die off.

 

The main villain should be the war machine. Kylo wants to end everything once and for all. One idea is that the Knight of Ren are some Luke's former students. Sometime during IX Ben Solo is redeemed and he realizes the death of the military complex that started during the Clone Wars is the only way to bring peace. Rey and the Jedi are pacifists who protect the galaxy. They're not military warriors. If Ben Solo comes back he would be at odds with the First Order leadership and with remember of the Knights of Ren.

That could set up a final battle between the Knight of Ren who side with Ben and the those that are loyal to the First Order.