SPECULATION Other, surviving Jedi?

Very true if Luke is the only one left...I like the idea of him making up a Jedi Order how he sees fit. It sounds like that's a great conversation someone should start on the threads

I can honestly say I have never thought about this as a possibility, but the more that I think about it the more that I like it... Maybe a group of Jedi that know about the old order and have stayed in hiding and been watching from a far if this new Skywalker is really worth coming out of the woodworks.

 

One thing is sure is that Snoke is very afraid of Luke.Maybe all his wounds are from a battle between Luke and Snoke.Snoke is afraid that if he can't kill Luke the new generation of Jedi will raise.I think that is the point and the answer....

 

1. We know there were from canon material. That was the entire point of the Inquisitors, to hunt down any remaining Jedi. The question is: do any of them survive till the time of TFA? Only if they've been recruited by the First Order I think. Seems like a story retread to have another random Jedi hiding out, plus it weakens the previous stories if there were really plenty of Jedi scattered throughout the Universe that didn't feel like doing anything about the Empire.

2. I really doubt it. I think it's really likely that Kylo killed them all, unless Rey was one of the students. We've already got our new force users (Kylo, Rey, Possibly Finn), I just don't think they'd throw in another one like "Yeah we didn't think we wanted another guy earlier but now we do so we'll just insert random guy here". If they had planned on having another surviving student it seems like lazy storytelling to exclude him/her from TFA then insert him later. Plus, it takes away from Kylo's story, killing all of the students is more impactful than killing some of the students.

3. Only if they're part of the First Order. I think Benecio Del Toro is a good candidate to be a surviving Jedi, or possibly Ezra but that's less likely.

 

Just a few random thoughts off the top of my head...

1) It's not impossible other Jedi survived Order 66, but if they did, it raises a few questions. For example, why have they dropped so far off the radar we haven't heard anything of what they've been up to? If they dropped so far off the radar, or found other lives or whatever, can we even classify them as Jedi anymore? Even if we can, what relevance could they possibly have to the galaxy at large or future Jedi? I guess they could have been doing a Yoda, but if they were, I feel this would diminish Luke in the OT, and even the ST, and I'm not in love with that idea.

2) If there were other survivors from Luke's "academy", then wouldn't Luke not know this through the Force bond created between teacher and student? Makes Luke look even more like a massive pillock if he didn't rally these students after the attack, and just abandoned them to their own devices. It's hard to justify, though not impossible I guess. Isn't Kylo a big enough reminder of Luke's failure as a teacher, do we really need these other students around to add to that? Don't see the value in it personally.

3) I doubt we'll see any of these random survivors crop up in the upcoming films, as it would be very hard to do the new stories and characters justice, and put these survivors into the new story with relevance. Too much back explaining to do. There's only so much story you can fit into the film, and I'm not sure how much value these characters could add anyway. Also, it could potentially diminish the poignancy of Luke and/or Rey's resurrectionof a new Jedi order.

The one exception to this could possibly be Rey's mother... though I personally doubt she's still alive, it's possible she could still be 'seen' through a part of the storytelling.


Although we might not see any Jedi trained survivors from Order 66 and Luke's student massacre alive and kicking and relevant, there would still be Force sensitives/ untrained Force users around. It's even possible they could have picked up ad hoc bits of training here and there, from satellite groups such as COTF, or old artefacts or whatever. Maybe they could factor in somehow? Not sure how that would work though, just messing with ideas here.

 

The relevant new information from Rebels is not only that Kanan survived the Jedi purge, but also that he took upon himself to train Ezra in the ways of the force, and with Yoda's knowledge. Assuming that other Jedi or padawn also survived, which is highly likely, couldn't they have also taken up apprentices themselves ?

I suppose the new, post-Rebels canon is not that Obi-Wan and Yoda were the only surviving Jedi post ROTS, but rather that, somehow, between ROTS and ANH, Vader and the Inquisitors chased all surviving Jedi and their apprentices if any and killed them all. As we see in Rebels, the planet Mustafar was even used as a Jedi extermination camp. A new inconsistency will arise though if Ezra survives, unless they find some way to tie him to the movie continuity, e,g. by making him related to Rey or whatever.

 

Well they could stil have been classified as jedi if they trained other fs's in the ways of the jedi similar to kanan and ezra .

 

I believe that Yaddle is still alive as she was younger than Yoda. As well there is no mention that she died only that she left the Jedi Council.

 

From Luke's Order? Yes, I think, in canon, he is the only one left, at least from his academy. Could there still be Jedi from the Prequel trilogy? Possibly. Yoda stated Luke was the last of the Jedi. So if there were prequel Jedi around, they probably abandoned the Jedi ways, and could've joined Luke's academy. Not sure, though. Think about it. How many students could Luke train at once? He probably took Ben Solo as his Padawan and trained a group of 10 (max), with Ben as his aid. Force-sensitives are rare to find as it is. He would probably have a difficult time finding them. I think Ben was his first and strongest student, being his Padawan, who slaughtered the rest of the Luke's Academy with the Knights of Ren.

 

The mysterious twitter news from Rian and an indie folk band planted seeds for a wild theory in my brain.
Is Snoke an ancient Jedi. Does he think himself that he was THE LAST TRUE JEDI?
With this in mind he could be convinced that all the Jedi of the "modern" times (Obi Wan & Co) were not worthy to be a Jedi and he is on some kind of personal crusade?
Just one of thousend possible plot twists

 

I wonder what happened to the likes of Bariss Ofee and Quinlan Vos....Vos knew how to suppress his connection to the force to avoid being recognized as a jedi in canon so there is a strong chance he left being a jedi and turned to some other profession.

Similarly, I wonder what happened to force sensitives during the time of the Empire like Jai, Dhara Leonis and infants like Pipey and Alora...did they end upp joining Luke's new jedi order? And if so, did they survive the massacre?

 

I think we can assume for the moment that most jedi either got killed, turned into inquisitors or just died of old age in hiding.

Part of me is hoping that they introduce another faction of Jedi/force users at some point, either in this trilogy or in ep 10 onwards.

Similar to the legends imperial knights http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Knight

They would be an actual ORDER OF KNIGHTS that wear armour, carry out justice and use both the light and dark side of the force for their own purposes.

I know we have the Knights of Ren but for some reason I don't think they are all force users.