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SPECULATION Padmé Didn’t Die of a Broken Heart

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Darth Lexor Kai, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. Darth Lexor Kai

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    I found this one on Facebook and thought i would share it with you nice folks!

    to sum it up, Palpatine had more to do with Padme's death than we are lead to believe...

    The droids couldnt explain it

    By his own admission, Palpatine learned everything his master knew, and killed him only after he could acquire nothing more.

    Palpatine was pretty busy in the events following his duel: he picked up Anakin and rebuilt him. If he wasn’t killing Padmé from afar, why oh why would he be aware of her death?

    http://www.retrozap.com/padme-didnt-die-of-a-broken-heart/

    this guy might be onto something... what do you think?
     
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    I always have said this is the worst idea of prequels... Hated this then and now... Would have been better had she died in childbirth... From childbirth
     
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    yeah we dont really need some mystical reason for such a thing. either way its tragic right? so the message gets across
     
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    Hm, I could buy what that guy's selling. It's a better option than the simple "broken heart". His theory does add up, though in all honesty I'm sure it happened in such a manner it did (she dying for unknown reasons just as Anakin was remade anew after surviving grievous injury) only for the poetic sense it had.

    I'll take his thoughts into consideration the next time I watch it. It's some weird mystical thing yes, but after all... it's the Force, no?
     
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    This just solved one of the PT's greatest mysteries.
     
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    I always thought that she died from internal injuries caused by the Force Choke, but this is way more interesting. Poetic, even.
     
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    I like the Facebook idea a lot, even if it doesn't feel like Star Wars for me, but to a lot of people who have complained about the actual death, like I once did, here -
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takotsubo_cardiomyopathy
    :p
     
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    I will take any explanation that dispels Padme losing the will to live because that totally contradicts her character and its insulting to any mother whoever gave birth. The theory is a stretch, but it works for me!
     
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    I'm also very keen on this theory! I'd always considered it, as Pomojema, to be a result of her tangle with Anakin. This theory adds up with Palpatine's ruthless manipulation of Anakin's life and makes sense as a final tipping point for his fall.
     
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    Lucas hasn't gone into much detail about her death, but I do remember he was specific that Anakin's force choke was not the reason she died. He said that would make him TOO much of a monster if he killed his wife. This Lucas's quote, not my opinion.
     
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    Unless Padme knew it was not up to her to turn Vader back from the darkside it was interesting that Anakin had a vision of her dying in child birth but could not save her Lucas had already decided her fate by the time of TAOTC.
     
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    Something struck me today about when Palpatine tells Vader "it seems, in your rage, you killed her."

    Now wait a second...he wasn't on Mustafar to witness him choking Padme, and he couldn't have known about her "losing the will to live," because that would imply that he would also know about Luke and Leia or even potentially the locations of Kenobi and Yoda.

    Only thing I can think of is that he probed Anakin's thoughts and learned about him choking Padme, and then put two-and-two together.

    Thoughts? Is something that might show up in the new canon?
     
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    Meh. That's a lot of speculation and it forces a timeline of events not necessarily made clear in the film. The have a funeral could it be that the news of her death hit in time for Palps to use the news. The "she's lost the will" is intended as a Greek tragedy sort of vibe which GL was shooting for in the whole PT.
     
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    Didn't mean to imply that I was endorsing it, but the OP reminded me of it. And it's an interesting question he raises.
     
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    My reaction after reading this theory:
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    Sure, but like I wondered....how would he know?

    (Yes....there's always the answer of "George messed it up in the PT) but canonically there's not any basis for him to know that Padme died BECAUSE of Anakin.
     
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    I always assumed it was a combination of 2 things.

    - The timeline continuity in the end of ROTS is compressed for dramatic effect. The healing and construction of vader likely took place over days if not weeks. By that time, Padme's death and Funeral would have been common knowledge for some time. Her funeral was a big deal, with the queen and many dignitaries present.

    - I don't think its necessary for Palpatine to know about the "broken heart" stuff. I think if Padme had died tripping down the stairs Palpatine still would have said it was Anakin who killed her. The point was to complete Anakin's fall by solidifying his loss. With Padme gone at his own hands, he was lost and willing to do whatever Palpatine commanded. There was no temptation for him to return to good. His guilt and lack of attachments would keep him as Vader, which is why its all the more important that Luke and Leia go into hiding so they can pull him back at the last moment.
     
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    And I agree. Except that one little thing that nags at me....

    Palpatibe specifically mentions that Anakin, in his rage, killed her.

    How could he have possibly known that? And by "that," I mean that he force choked her and left her unconscious before his duel with Kenobi.

    That's what sticks in my craw. How did he know that Anakin had anything to do with it in the first place, let alone that it was in a fit of rage?
     
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    If Yoda could feel Anakin's rage when he killed the Tuskens, you'd have to assume Palpatine would be that intune as well. It would make sense that the betrayal and anguish necesarry to get Anakin to turn on his wife was similar to that which made him avenge his mother's death. So a strong force user with an interest in his apprentice's progress might feel the ripples as far away as corsucant.
     
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