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SPECULATION Pet Theories?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Use the Falchion, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Use the Falchion

    Use the Falchion Jedi Contrarian

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    So, I kinda wanted to create a "safe*" space to talk about this, but are there any ideas that y'all have that, while mostly likely implausible, to potentially impossible, would like to see? Or just any pet theories you have, but haven't had a place to put them? I have a few, and here's to hoping I'm not the only one!

    1. Finn Skywalker (pretty unlikely, but I find the idea that the Skywalker Lightsaber "calls" to Rey, only for her to give it back to Luke, who in turn gives it to Finn - the first person to use it in the ST - hilarious and cool. It'd be, like, a triple fake-out too).

    2. Rey being dropped off by Han Solo (which does NOT mean he's her dad; it'd be a cool cynicism catalyst for a young Ben, and in terms of the story, have the same impact on Rey as Luke learning about Vader in ESB. It'd paint Han as a bad guy temporarily, until it's eventually revealed that Han actually rescued her from a worse situation. Again, unlikely, but it could fit).

    3.1 Rey Kenobi (the reason I put this in the "unlikely" category is because I pair it with the Finn Skywalker idea, so in that sense, it's not happening).

    3.2 Rey is related to Ezra, or Kanan, or someone from Rebels.

    3.3 Rey is Luke and Aphra's daughter (hilariously I believe my first post mentioned this, so it's a relevant throwback for me).

    4. Ben actually saved Luke from other "disciples" when they found out about his connection to Vader.

    5. Ezra and/or Maul form the Knights of Ren.

    Considering a lot of these would probably be contradictory, or too troublesome to explain (to a casual audience at least), I doubt a these will happen, but it'd still be fun to see and it's still fun to hope for!

    Anyways, those are just my pet theories. What about y'all? What are some of the pet theories you have?

    *By safe I mean a place where you can explain your theory if you want, but I'd like to refrain from major debates. Those can be stimulating, but they can also be incredibly stifling.
     
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    1. Luke has been "Force drained" by Snoke and is in hiding on Ahch-To because he has lost his power and must pass the knowledge of the Jedi to Rey.
    2. Snoke drains people of the Force and uses it to replenish himself.
    3. Snoke also has a weaponised version of this power through an ancient weapon found on Jakku that can drain the Force energy from an entire planet. This is what turned Jakku from a living to a dead planet.
    4. Rey is the daughter of Jyn Erso and Gallius Rax/Cassius.
    5. Benicio Del Toro will play Rey's father.
    6. Leia will be kidnapped by Ren at the start of VIII which Snoke will have set him to do to complete his training. Snoke will drain Leia of her power.
    7. ReyLo will be a thing.
    8. Snoke is probably not Plagueis but he should be!
     
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    Darth Malkovich Rebel General

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    Rey is the physical incarnation of the force itself, whose previous incarnation was Schmi Skywalker. She emerged once again to be the 'force mother'/Sophia but the machinations of Snoke have forced her to become the chosen one instead of being mother to the chosen one.
    The briefcase that Bazine Natal took from the Endor veteran contained Vader's helmet, she brought it to Kylo Ren. He hires her once again to track down Rey - she'll be this trilogy's Boba Fett.
    Sabine Wren left the rebellion to take up the mantle of Mandalore sometime before Rogue One. She'll lead the Mandalorians into an alliance with the resistance to fight the First Order - though this might work better in IX.
    Snoke is a fallen Jedi who mirror's Jorus C'Baoth somewhat in that he went to the unknown regions - but is far more powerful than C'Baoth was, he discovered the ruins of the Rakata empire and learned to use their dark powers.
    Or Snoke is wicket ;)(ewok)
     
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    Snoke made both Anakin AND Rey by tinkering with Force Alchemy

    Rey and Anakin are both powerful with the Force. Both have natural aptitudes with electronics. Both are good/natural pilots. It also hasn't been revealed yet who Anakin's 'Father' was. You also would get a surprising 'I am your father' reveal from Snoke mirroring the OT.

    It also explains Snoke's sudden interest in Rey once she is mentioned in the movie.

    Snoke may have assisted/worked with Plagueis in learning the secret on how to use the Force to create life. Palpatine said Plagueis was the only SITH to learn the secret. It's been stated Snoke is not a Sith. Maybe Plagueis turned on Snoke once he had no further perceived use for him and that's why Snoke looks like he's been assaulted by Force Lightening in the past. There is also the precedent of Sith exploiting other Force users when it's useful to them - Palpatine working with The Witches of Dathomir, the Inquisitors, etc. so it's not totally out of the realm of reason that Plagueis might of dealt with Snoke in the past and then betrayed him.


    If Rey's mother found herself pregnant with no father in the picture there is the logical motivation for abandoning her child with a thug like Unkar Plutt. If her parent(s) cared at all for Rey pretty much -anyone- else would of been a better choice.

    That's my two Republic Credits worth of opinion on the matter until proven otherwise.

    I also like the theory that Anakin's Father is 'The Father' from the Mortis arc in Clone Wars. The Ones were a family of exceptionally powerful Force wielders and Snoke is a powerful Force wielder.


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    The other idea I like is that one of the B-Wings in RotJ is piloted by Hera from Rebels. Until they reveal her final fate it's not impossible!

    :D !!
     
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    - ESB, ROTJ, and the entire ST is a fever dream of vader while in a force hibernation after han throws his ship into a spiral in deep space.
     
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    Crap! You beat me to it. I was going to say that at the end of the sequel trilogy alternate timeline Spock awakens and tells Kirk "I just had the most fascinating dream".

    The JJverse is now complete!!!!!!!!

    [​IMG]
     
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    This could also be revealed via that rumored Hayden Christensen Force ghost scene people have speculated on.
     
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    or: Anakin comes back asa force ghost to rey and ben as they are fighting and reveals that and then absorbs himself into Rey making her the literal embodiment of the force
    :p.
     
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    - Force trees, full of midichlorians
    - FinnPoe
    - Force wood from Force trees
    - Comatose Carrie Fisher
    - Timbertroopers cutting down Force trees
     
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    How about this...

    Rey is the thought dead TWIN sister of Ben Solo.

    When she was taken (at 5 years old or whatever) she was frozen in carbonite for 10 years or whatever.

    This gives her memory issues.

    It's also another reason the characters don't even consider she could be Kira Solo- she'd be older.


    ...just playin pretty sure Bloodline kills this idea.

    I do wonder, no matter who she is, why she doesn't remember...
     
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    Snoke, like Count Dooku, was one of the Lost Twenty (Jedi masters who left the Jedi Order). However, unlike Dooku he did not become a Sith Apprentice, but figured out how to use the dark side of the Force on his own.

    Maz Kanata was actually involved in getting Rey stranded on Jakku. This was why Maz was so confident in telling Rey that whoever had left her on Jakku would not be coming back for her.
     
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    Phasma is the one who took baby Finn from his parents.
    Poe will be devastated when finds out Kylo Ren is Leia's son.
    Luke won't go easy on Rey with her training just like Yoda with him.
    Maz is familiar with Snoke.
    We'll see a droid on the FO's side. Like an anti-BB8.
     
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    BB-hate
     
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    I know it's a long shot but I floated an idea in the lead up to TFA that Rey is a cousin or grand Daughter to Palpatine.

    While Snoke is currently Supreme Leader of the 1st Order they might be a well funded military force hoping to conquer hence they are not an Empire. The New Republic leadership just got blow'd up. The resulting chaos means that factions will either flock to the Resistance, submit to the 1st Order or attempt independence/neutrality.

    Luke gains a new apprentice it is revealed that she has family ties to Palpatine. That is the big reveal.

    Episode 9 will be: The Resistance and 1st Order are at full out war. Luke hopes for peace and presents Rey as Palpatine's heir like Merlin in Arthurian legends and tries to get old imperials and his sister to peace talks.
     
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    So I went back for the first time since I formulated this theory and carefully examined the space battle over Endor. We have 4 shots of B-Wings near the beginning of the battle. The 1st is when the Falcon is flying in and around the fleet and two start to follow. The next time we see B-Wings there are three of them together and the last time we see them through Ackbar's cockpit there are four. No pilots of B-Wings are shown. I'd like to think she is the leader of them.

    I pick and choose what I like for Star Wars so unless she's killed in a cartoon or a movie it works for me!
    <3 (hera)
     
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    1. The Knights of Ren were formed decades ago from the remnants of Death Watch by Sabine Wren. They were a mercenary/bounty hunter group until Kylo noticed their skill in fighting force users and decided to make them his own. Reasons it's not true though: why would Kylo take on the surname of a forceless bounty hunter group? Why would Snoke consider it an accomplishment that Kylo is their master? Them being non force users just doesn't jive with what we've learned, but who knows what they decide to do.

    2. Rey Palpatine. There's a youtube video that explains this in great detail, much better than I could so check that out if you're interested. The gist is, we learn in a canon book that Palpatine had an eye for the ladies back when he was a senator. Theory goes that he had a kid with a woman who he either didn't know about, wouldn't claim, or simply lost track of, then that child later had a child, Rey (Rey could also have been the child herself but frozen in carbonite or some other form of suspended animation). They give some pretty compelling evidence and I absolutely love the symmetry of the theory. The Skywalker goes bad, the Palpatine goes good.
     
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    I"ll give this a shot:
    1. I believe Finn will be revealed to be a force-sensitive. (possible Skywalker?)
    as well as Kelly Marie Tran's character, who may very feel have some connection to Luke. ("If Skywalker returns, the new jedi will rise." Plural)
    2. Luke will be a different character; more wizard-like, enigmatic. Will really challenge Rey, but Rey will also sense something painfully hidden in Luke (from the past, a vulnerability, a reveal), that she is trying uncover. Luke's resistance to do so will cause conflict between the two.
    3. Force Sensitivity and practice can be achieved by any one: it's about free will and choice. Luke finds the source of this on Ach-to.
    4. We will see Kylo Ren's character as at his worst in terms of evilness and violence.
    5. Kylo will make a big reveal to Rey (in front of Luke?)
    6. Cliffhangers will have the protagonists in a bad situation/condition. (Rey (injured as Daisy said emotionally and physically), Finn, Luke (finds Leia in grave condition), Poe/Leia)
    7. Learn more about Snoke's identity (manifestation of the dark side).
    8. As much as "I'd like" Rey to be related to Luke or Leia, I think she may be revealed as a descendant of the first Jedi.
    9. Resistance/First Order battle in which resistance suffers great losses. (with laura Dern)
    10. LUke will have no choice but to leave Ach-to. Maybe a meeting with Leia? (need some resolution between the two here).
     
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    I can't imagine Luke being so mystified suddenly without explanation with the way he was during the OT unless they flesh him out which I doubt they would do .
     
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    far out theory 1:-
    Gannis Ducain found a girl encased in carbonite on a planet in the outer rim.
    He stole the millenium falcon.. put the frozen girl on board.
    Irving Boys stole the falcon from Ducain.
    Irving boys activated the thawing mechanism and the girl survived.
    They sold her and the falcon to Plutt.. they then stole a better ship and left.

    far out theory 2:-
    Han visits Luke's jedi academy
    Gannis Ducain steals the falcon from Han.. a young woman sneaks on board as it leaves.
    Ducain discovers the woman on board days later, but doesn't hurt her... because she's pregnant.
    the woman stay with Ducain and a few months later gives birth to a girl.
    during a gun deal with the Irving boys, the woman gets hurt when the Irving boys attack.. and steal the falcon.
    the woman dies.
    The Irving boys decide to get rid of the falcon and child quickly.. they sell to Plutt on Jakku.
    Irving boys steal another ship and leave Jakku.

    wacky to say the least lol. It just dawned on me that perhaps the falcon being on Jakku wasn't just for the sake of TFA's story, and that maybe Rey has been with it the whole time.
     
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    I like this a lot.
     
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