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SPECULATION Planets In Episode VII

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by JeffG., Sep 8, 2014.

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    Excerpt from the "Legends" tab on Corellia on the starwars wiki: "Corellia's surface was extremely temperate, dominated by rolling hills such as those ofBindreg, thick forests, lush farmland, golden beaches, and large seas. Snow-covered mountains dominated part of the landscape."

    ...It seems like Corellia could be the main planet of Ep. 7, based on locations and rumors of the environments we've gotten so far. Snow and trees (fianl battle rumors), Lots of ocean (Daisy and Luke on the island), rolling green fields and forests (xwings and falcon spy shots).
     
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    My guess

    Tatooine
    Dantooine
    Yavin IV
    *Unknown Ice Planet*
    *Unknown Forest Planet*
    Moriband
     
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    I think...

    New Desert Planet
    New Ice Planet
    New Jungle Planet
    New Skellig Michael Planet
    Coruscant
    Dantooine
    Moriband
     
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    I cannot imagine this film without Tatooine. The precedent has been set in 5 of 6 films.
     
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    I want to see Corellia in E7 so I hope you're guess is correct.
     
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    Of course we'll see Star Destroyers being built. Otherwise what are our heroes going to fly through space towards after they jump out of the airlock? It is a JJ film, after all. :D

    I completely disagree. They have the scope of possibility of an entire universe at their disposal, they could quite literally create absolutely anything they can imagine - a world whose atmosphere is liquid, but has a hard shell and an atmosphere inside that; a world inside a giant living creature floating through space; a crumbling planet slowly circling the pan around an unstable black hole; etc. etc. So why, oh why, would they go back to that drab dustbowl yet again? So dull. When I watched TPM in the cinema, I actually cringed when they based so much of it on Tattooine. More imagination, more creativity and more diversity, please!
     
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    This is the type of creativity best reserved for OTHER science fiction films. It's just not Star Wars. The planets are not the focus - they're just settings. They are and always will be basic - hence:

    Tatooine - desert planet
    Death Star - machine planet
    Yavin - jungle planet
    Hoth - ice planet
    Bespin - gas planet
    Endor - forest moon
    Naboo - Italy planet
    Coruscant - city planet
    Kamino - water planet
    Mustafar - lava planet
    See the trend there?

    JJ and team will stay thematic to the other six films. The concept art is proving that out (if it's real). And Tatooine is in there - hence the binary sunset. And, again, that's the whole point. Skywalkers are from Tatooine. Tatooine is core to the Star Wars universe.

    There's lots of other sci fi that has unique gravity and world building - Star Wars isn't one of them.
     
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    I don't agree at all with any of that, but that's just my preference. I just think it's a shame to limit what appears to be a magnificent collection of conceptual artists like that and not allow their imaginations to go wild. And by no means was I suggesting that the planets themselves should be a central piece to the story - even with the liquid atmosphere planet I mentioned, for example, you'd still find cities and spaceports as normal where 90% of the action would take place, but the idea is to inspire the audience to believe that it's a completely alien world, not just by the fact that the heroes landed there in a spacecraft of some kind, but by making it so far removed from what we consider to be "normal" that we believe it on a deeper level as well. It's also just the little things that they could change as well. For example, from the list you've given above, the following worlds had a blue sky: Tatooine, Yavin, Hoth, Bespin (arguably), Endor, Naboo, Coruscant. Do you see where I'm coming from??
     
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    It's fine if it's your preference. Just keep in mind it's NOT Star Wars. You can get that kind of stuff in the Riddick series and other SF movies and TV shows that are trying to be so creative and different. This is Star Wars - it doesn't need original planets and atmospheres and crap because it was FIRST.

    Non blue skies - you know what they're good for? Distracting the audience from what is actually happening in the STORY. And also - NOT STAR WARS.

    And the audience believes it's a completely alien world because...oh yeah...it's STAR WARS.
     
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    It's "NOT Star Wars" to be inventive and creative? That makes so little sense, particularly because, as you say, "it was FIRST". It's one of the defining things about a good sci-fi is that the aliens and their worlds are unusual, believable and fascinating on multiple levels. Just look at Star Trek, Stargate, Babylon 5.... All of them had aliens that were different and had strange worlds that didn't just look like they were filmed in the local park or quarry on a tight budget. So I can't let that slide, I'm afraid.
     
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    Then you don't understand Star Wars then do you?

    The worlds just don't matter. The story does. This is STAR WARS. How can you not understand this. Go back and watch IV-VI. Lucas could have made purple skies and floating mountains and whatever else he wanted - but he didn't. You know why? STAR WARS.
     
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    Well in a sense you could say Why? Because Flash Gordon. Lucas limited himself to what the Flash Gordon serials could show. I am still fairly certain he knew when he was making the first Star Wars he was designing it to be as if you thrown right in the middle of a Flash Gordon story arc.
     
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    Mate, I've lived and breathed Star Wars every day of my life since I first watched Ep 4 on TV in 1984, when I was 4 years old, watching it daily on VHS recorded from the TV. Please don't try and tell me what is and isn't Star Wars. All I said was I think they should be more inventive and explore new ideas and possibilities, because we have the creative minds and technical capability to do much more incredible things today than back in '77. Let it go, dude. If you truly want everything to be the same, do me a favour and don't bother going to see Ep 7, because it's going to be different from the previous six. How did you cope when you watched the PT and things were smoother and more clean-cut - the Nubian Starship, for example, compared to the Falcon?
     
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    Well I saw Ep 4 in the theater in 1978 when I was six years old. And I saw Empire (and was reading all the speculation mags reading up to it) when I was 8. And I stood in line on opening day for ROTJ when I was 11. So there. Nah nah nah boo boo.

    Seriously though, you're arguing to have Star Wars be changed into something else. I understand your desire to have a wildly alien universe. I get it. I understand it.

    However - it's just NOT Star Wars. And that's what I'm trying to get through to you.

    Star Wars has a thematic vibe that is set. It's set in stone. The EU crap has poisoned young ones minds to make them think that stuff described by two-bit for-hire novelists was "real" was Star Wars. It wasn't. Planet landing on Chewie - NOT STAR WARS. Just dumb.

    The Prequels had a slightly different vibe. It was a better time. The Republic. The Old Republic. It was shiny-er. It was nicer-er. Got that. Wasn't executed as well as say the flashback comic with Obi-Wan as a young man going to the Wheel - but I'll let that go.

    Ep 7 will be different from the previous six. No doubt. But it will still have one-weather planets. Ice world. England world. Jungle world. And will go back to all the main worlds from IV-VI.

    JJ and team have loads more capability to do new things - but they won't. Not when it comes to the worlds. Trust me.
     
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    The argument over who is the truer Star Wars fan is kind of ridiculous, we all love Star Wars more then is probably healthy and that is why we are here. You shouldn't get more "street cred" for simply being older.

    The point Fallon is trying to make is that at its heart Star Wars is a 1930's tv serial. It has one biome planets and we are ok with that because that is Star Wars. Avatar was a modern sci-fi with 80's roots so they get to have floating mountains. Mass Effect was an 80's B-film so we get vaguely human looking aliens.

    Things like the setting, the plot, the themes, the music. All define these movies in that fashion
     
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    Oh well, JJ wants some own planets for his Episode 7 movie....Why not?

    But let´s be optimistic for a moment...They have to put some older ones too....And hopefully in 7,8 and 9 some Legends ones too...The potencial ist just too big...
     
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    Star Wars creates a universe where everything is familiar but also different. I think you'll see both old and new locations in this film.

    Takonada is the name of a play set and a battle location, therefore it could be the name of a Cantina, a planet, a village or a star system. If it is a planet, it could be any of them but Jakku and my money is that Takonada is the Act III planet that hosts Starkiller Base.

    Star Wars locations are thematic. They are part pathetic fallacy and partly art design. Hoth produces a whole series of costumes, sets and action figures themed in a way you might release a "GI Joe Arctic Patrol" sku, while also demonstrating that the Rebellion is in a rut, frozen in some remote place desperately trying to survive. It's also a beautiful juxtaposition to the start of IV that starts in a desert.

    Kamino was sterile, blank and generic, to reflect the fact it was a place clones were made water a symbol for change and momentum, which is exactly what the discovery of the clones create.

    Mustaphar a reflection of Anakin's seething soul as his the solid foundation of all his training and philosophy melts into fire and hate.

    Endor has massive scale, huge trees, massive satellite dishes and fast, agile speeders to navigate a monolithic forest. This contrasts beautifully with the small Ewoks who provide all the difference. A large part of what Return is about is the idea that small amounts of friends and faith can overcome and conquer massive odds. Endor helps illustrate that with the juxtaposition of little Teddy Bears living in a forest full of 200 foot trees and massive military might.

    I am fine with a planet in Star Wars exhibiting multiple environments or just a singular one.

    All I ask is the environment combine the elements of Pathetic Fallacy and visual theme. Jakku is a perfect example. What better way to start Episode VII than on a barren, rugged planet (a desert is a very poetic place to start a character) riddled with the machines and debris of the last war all around them. The artifacts of the old are torn up and lying in ruin everywhere, like a shadow, like a reminder of all that came before. It's perfect.
     
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    I think the big reason that Sullust won't show up in The Force Awakens - as much as I'd like it to appear - is that Lucasfilm commissioned DICE to create that world from the ground-up. If J. J. and company were including it in the movie, then they wouldn't have asked for DICE to do their work for them.
     
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    Maybe this is a little overly analytical, but when I read Battle on Takodana I don't necessarily think of a planet. Don't we usually hear about the "Battle of Jakku," the "Battle of Hoth," etc.?

    To me, the "Battle on Takodana" sounds like a battle, the possibility of which @Snazel so aptly pointed out, that takes place on a starship of some kind. Like maybe a frigate. With pirates or gangs on board. Where some kind of livestock are released and start attacking everyone. Alternatively, or in addition to, Takodana sounds quite... Asian? ... to me, and we have a whole host of Asian actors brought over from The Raid. Maybe this battle is one that takes place on their ship or planet?
     
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