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Plot twists may challenge what we know about PT and OT?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Jimba Fett, Oct 13, 2015.

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Would you like to see changes in what you thought you knew about the PT/OT?

  1. Yes

    7 vote(s)
    38.9%
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    27.8%
  3. Maybe

    6 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. Jimba Fett

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    We must by now have all been hearing and reading about plot twists and surprises for the ST.

    From what John Boyega has been saying about his character, Finn is not all that he seems and John thinks anyone guessing what that might be is dead wrong.

    With all this in mind I am very optimistic that the force awakens along with the rest of trilogy will not be derivative of the OT. I have talked about this extensively in previous threads if you care to read them. To me it promises to be a movie and a trilogy created with a vision to be new and take the skywalker saga and the star wars universe in unexpected and unpredictable directions.

    Along with this mystery and promise of plot twists and surprises I have another thought to what Disney/Lucasfilm might have up their sleeve. That the surprises and plot twists might not be exclusively for the ST but might also have repercussions on the previous two trilogies too.

    In essence things we thought we knew about Anakin/Vader, Obi Wan, yoda, Luke, Han, Leia ect might not be entirely how it actually turns out to be. It might be only one or two of those characters that new revelations are about or of course none of the above.

    As there were revelations about the OT in the PT, it stands to reason that the ST will serve as a vehicle to tell new stories and reveal things we didn't know about the OT and maybe the PT too.

    Like the scene in a new hope when Obi Wan tells Luke that Vader killed his father maybe there are other half truths or downright lies about the previous trilogies also.

    I like the idea as star wars fans of our knowledge of the saga being put into question. I like the idea of a big shake up in the whole story or turning what we thought we knew about a character upside down. That could excite us and if anything reinvigorate the stories of the previous two trilogies and make us want to watch them again but from a different/certain point of view.

    Of course if that does happen and it's done well then great, I'm up for that but tampering with pre-existing material could be disastrous if not handled correctly.

    People in general seem to want to see something entirely new in the ST but maybe that has limits?

    If you think it's an interesting idea or you have other thoughts on how to expand on what I've addressed then I'd be very interested to know what you think about it. Equally if you think it's a bad idea to mess with the story thus far and potentially ruin the skywalker story forever then I'd be very interested to read your comments.
     
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    I'd think it would be hilarious if there's a line or something referring to The PT being really from an alternate timeline to retcon it because of so much hate for The PT. :p
     
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    I think you may be on to something here. There will be more to this Finn character than we expect.
     
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    I'm actually wondering if his stormtrooper identity is fake and not as some have suggested that he is sent from the first order as a spy.
     
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    Maybe Qui-Gon will gain the ability to appear?
     
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    I can't choose yes or no. It honestly depends on what the twists are and what it affects.
     
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    So in other words it's a maybe. Ok I'll add that to the voting options. Thanks.
     
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    I think this is almost a guarantee. A plot twist about a family connection or that such and such has fell to the dark side is far too contrived. It would also bore to the grave both die hard and casual fans alike.
     
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    Something just occurred to me. What if the First Order implants chips in their recruits, like the Clones had. Out of the blue in Episode 9, Hux or Phasma send him a com message like, "FN-2187, execute order 66."
    He could be a double agent whether he wants to be or not.
     
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    Star Wars was never supposed to be about plot twists, half truths, mystery boxes & misdirects.

    It's a big turn off 4 me.

    It was a simple story about a divided family who triumphs over evil.
     
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    I've said in several threads that for me its very important to in the end be able to look at 1-9 as a good and cohesive story.

    Personally I think PT connects well with the OT and the OT connects well with ST, but there needs to be better connection of PT and ST. I think this could be done with bringing locations, alien races, etc that made an appearance in the PT and OT into the ST, and more references to specific PT people/events (other than Skywalker). The mention of the Clone Army in TFA and mention of Darth Sidious in TLJ is not quite enough connection for me.
     
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