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SPECULATION Poe Dameron and the village on Jakku

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Fussel2107, Oct 26, 2015.

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How will Poe react when the village is attacked?

  1. He will do what his mission commands.

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  2. He will abandon the mission and aid the villagers.

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  3. Neither, he will... (add comment below)

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  1. HAL'sgal

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    Does anyone beside me wonder why all of a sudden a lightsaber is so important? I mean, Anakin used to lose them all the time. Torching an entire village and offing innocent people seems like overkill, to say the least. I know the theory is that there's some kind of code in there that leads them to Luke, but that does require a retcon. Not to mention, how did Luke know where he was going to end up 30 years later?

    And Rey happens to be on the same planet with said lightsaber?

    Nah, I don't buy it. There's something else that's going on on Jakku.
     
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    In one of the last teasers we heard Poe speak for the first time
    "We got company"

    He is a) weasring his jacket and b) his face is uninjured so this is before his captivity and the most logical conclusion would be, it happens when he is meeting with MvS' character.
    But yeah, I can see what you're getting at.
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    I don't think it's really about the lightsaber.
    I mean, sure, the lightsaber IS important, but I don't think the FO knows just how important it is and that it was not only Luke's but also Vader's at some point.

    It's about Rey in my opinion

    Oh and: great find about the speeder bike!
     
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    Yeah, Hal'sGal and I were discussing this and one thing that bugs me now is if the lightsaber is that vital, why does Leia give it to Finn in act 3 and send him deep into enemy territory with it? If there's something inside it that both sides need, seems awfully risky, no?
    Notice how right around the same time that Kylo also doesn't seem interested in it anymore, because he has Rey, Leia is also not prioritizing the lightsaber's security anymore - she's giving it to Finn to go rescue Rey.
     
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    Yes, absolutely!

    Finn stands there with the lightsaber and Kylo runs after Rey.

    I think the lightsaber is the decoy, not Rey ;)
    But that makes for the interesting question: why does MvS have the lightsaber?

    Because if you ask the question the other way round, it opens a whole bag of new possibilities.
    If Poe is after Rey, why is he talking to the guy who has the lightsaber?
     
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    Haha we were thinking it might be as simple as Rey and the lightsaber having disappeared at the same time (and possibly together). If Leia knew that, well if she got a call from someone saying they'd found the lightsaber... she'd send someone to do some detective work regarding Rey's whereabouts.

    Possibly Kylo would know as well that Rey and the lightsaber disappeared together.
     
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    Rey's mother left Rey and her lightsaber on the care of MVS before dying.
     
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    when does bb8 have the lightsaber stored inside him? before they get to jakku?
    does poe acquire the lightaber on jakku and put it in bb8?

    could it be as simple as this:
    leia sent poe with the lightsaber so rey would trust poe and go with him?

    could it be:
    leia sent poe with the lightsaber to show MVS for (whatever) mission objective he has for meeting with him?

    (maybe)
    han arrives in the MF to get rey off world?
    im hoping there is some connection why the MF is on the planet
    if rey just HAPPENS to take the MF and just HAPPENS to be related to leia or luke or han.. ugh thats way to coincidental for me

    i KNOW the OT had some crazy coincidences too but at this point it would be lazy storytelling
    in 1977 it was a less sophisticated action adventure and could be excused
     
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    I don't think the MF is there just for fun, we KNOW that Poe is not there just for fun and Rey and the lightsaber just make it pretty much impossible that anything in there is coincidence.

    What if Poe sends BB-8 (with the lightsaber) out to find Rey and stay with her? Not (only) to hide the lightsaber, but to mark Rey for whomever will come to look for her if Poe doesn't return.

    I mean, in Leia's book it's explicitly stated how committed Poe is and every description of him tells us how much of a hero complex he has and that he would sacrifice everything for the Resistance, so him sacrificing himself to get BB-8 out and to Rey's side to tag her as the one Leia and the Resistance are looking for is not really that far fetched.
     
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    i like that. simple and effective
     
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    I do prefer the idea that Poe is enduring torture because he doesn't want to give up information about his General's lost-but-almost-found daughter (or niece but ya know), rather than being tortured over a simple lightsaber's location.
     
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    Perhaps all three (Rey, lightsaber, MF) got there at the same time?
    Rey's mother gets severely wounded at the academy attack and escapes with Rey on the MF, she leaves Rey and her lightsaber at the care of MVS before dying.
     
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    thats supposing there was an academy.

    I dont think there was personally

    the idea of an academy is all fan speculation. there has been nothing substantial from official sources to suggest this. if there is please cite sources i'd be interested in reading it
     
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    Actually I agree with you there, I won't believe in the flashbacks and the academy attack until there is some official info about it (I'm actually annoyed nobody has asked JJ such a simple question yet, are you going to use flashbacks?).
    However, while I believe MSW synopsis maybe missing a lot of scenes and misinterpreting some others, the possibility of the academy flashbacks is still high.
     
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    its possible the shot of the knights of ren is some sort of flashback. its showing weather we see no where else
    andddddd more importantly.. where are those 6 other rens????

    if it is a flashback i have a feeling luke 'dealt' with them
     
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    I had imagined a similar fate for them, Luke arrives after the academy massacre and kills all of them except Kylo in his rage.
     
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    except i think all those people laying dead are just another outer rim village being crushed under the FOs boot, not academy students.. ;)

    that DOES give Luke motivation for just retreating from the galaxy though... if he struck them all down in vegence and rage... maybe luke will even be seen with the chimp eyes.. and kylo on his back with his arm up waiting for the killing blow.. then.. luke just... walks away and retreats from the galaxy.

    rather then any big convoluted story like he had a wife and all that on the galactic frontier maybe it will be as simple as luke arrives to help some moisture farmers after receiving a distress call and they are laying butchered and look like aunt beru and uncle owen.. and luke just snaps- realizing all they fought for was useless... evil has arisen again
     
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    If that's the case, then you definitely have a reason to believe us. There is at least one extended flashback sequence, but it meshes with the plot of the film as opposed to coming out of nowhere.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean, believe who?
     
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    Believe us about there being a flashback sequence.
     
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    Oh, I was not aware you or the staff had any info about this, but I was away from the site for some months, is there any article about this?
     
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