SPECULATION Poe Dameron and the village on Jakku

The FO isn't looking for Rey when it attacks Jakku. If people are accepting the MSW spoilers every time it props Rey they have t o accept its spoilers that don't place her as the target of the enemy. FO first comes for the lightsaber. The second time I believe they come for Finn which is why it appears they are trying to kill Rey and Finn rather than apprehend them. Rey gets drawn into the conflict.

 

Absolutely they have left stuff out. Mark Hamill had that recent interview where he said they'll withhold some of his pay if a certain secret gets out. That means he knows something no one else knows. And of course there is the editing process. So who knows what will end up actually on the screen.

I also think I personally have underestimated the lengths they are willing to go to to keep the plot under wraps. Yes, we know a lot less than we think we do.

 

Didn't we pretty much SEE the very end of the lightsaber fight, though, with the lightsaber falling down the shaft and stuff?

 

huh...so Luke's clothing is important to the story...?

 

I'd love to see these pigs again...instead of hunting for truffles, they hunt for lightsabers.

 

How does it make any more sense for. Kylo to bring an army with him to track down one girl whom he could probably locate simply by having his operatives ask around? Was Rey in hiding?

The same goes for Leia to an extent. The whereabouts of the lightsaber would just be made known to her and she would be put in a position to

And for some reason Kylo using his army in search for Rey would make more sense? Granted there have always been plenty of holes in the info from MSW, but wouldn't it be easier for Kylo to send operatives to Jakku to do some subtle snooping to locate Rey rather than burn down villages? Because if Kylo's army doesn't find her during that first attack, chances are word would get to Rey (its a small community) quickly that the army was looking for a young woman of her age and skin tone. Which means she would the be in a position to go into hiding.

And what about Leia? If she had known that Rey was of some importance to her and her family and was on that world hidden in plain sight, wouldn't she have a better plan to extradite her in case an emergency arose? Sending Poe seems more like a last minute idea to retrieve an item whose possible whereabouts just became known to Leia. Sure that doesn't make complete sense either, but it sounds more likely than Rey being the initial reason why either side would go to Jakku in the first place. Particularly if the lightsaber provided info on where Luke is.

Also, ask yourself if Poe was looking for an actual human being who was very important to Leia, would he simply give up and head back to Yavin without doing more to track her down? Spoilers from various sources point to him finding a lift back to his base after escaping with Finn from the Finalizer. He didn't stick around to ensure Rey's safety and well being. And that is because he more than likely wasn't looking for her to begin with.

 

Well, he left Jakku without BB8, either. If he got the lightsaber and gave it to BB8, wouldn't he want to retrieve the droid? He doesn't know where BB8 is. They tortured him ostensibly to find BB8, and people died to protect that secret, but Poe doesn't look for him, or at least doesn't look for long.

Most of Poe's actions make little sense, frankly. He's so desperate to get back to Jakku that Finn tries to talk him out of it "If we go back to Jakku we die", and then Poe just up and leaves- without finding Rey, Finn or BB8. He'd have to call Leia as soon as he hit the sand in order to have someone come get him, take him to the Base and grab another X-wing in order to get to Maz's and fight. And not just any x-wing, either- his cool black one. You'd think he'd want to use that one on a stealth mission at night on Jakku.

Furthermore, if Kylo Ren tortured Poe and found out BB8 has the lightsaber, why did the TIE fighters try to blast BB8 to pieces? They made no attempt to capture him intact. I though his poor little head was going to fly off in that explosion in the trailer. They just looked like they want him dead. Or maybe they wanted his companion dead (well I'm sure they wanted FN2187 dead but I doubt they knew he was that guy in the jacket).

A lot of this just doesn't make any sense. Nobody is really acting all that interested in finding just the light saber.

 

Yep, there's a quite a few holes regarding what happens to Poe at this point (I won't get into mine and @HAL'sgal's theory lol) but I think it's interesting that an MSW source said Poe gets a message to Leia, and it's apparently how she knows to send people to Takodana. Did Poe really tell her that? If so, how would he know that's where the lightsaber would be? It's not like Finn could have told him. From what I've seen I don't think any spoilers have made it clear what tips off Leia about Takodana in the first place - nothing about Han calling her, or someone in Maz's castle spotting the Falcon and calling it in, etc, someone correct me if I'm wrong about that. And in the latter's case she'd need to have been told that BB-8 was travelling in the Falcon. So if it is Poe's information that sends Leia's people to Takodana, does that mean he knows the circumstances by which BB-8 got off of Jakku? And possibly who was accompanying the droid? At the very least he could tell Leia they were on board the Falcon so she'd know to put the word out to her people for any sign of that ship. (Really, Han calling Leia would be the simplest explanation but then it's surprising that MSW is suggesting Leia's first scene in the movie is receiving Poe's message updating her on the situation, not Han's.)
I mean I can't say exactly how Poe would learn any of this, but there are gaps from the story outline here which would allow him to have tried tracking BB-8 (and that leaves open the slim possibility he was there looking for Rey because it means he was still attempting to complete his mission as best he could).

The way I see it, these are the ways it could go:
1. We assume that Han called Leia after discovering BB-8 has Luke's lightsaber, and he told her where they were going. This would mean Poe probably doesn't know anything else and simply called to say he can't complete his mission since BB-8 has vanished with the lightsaber, and he needs help searching. Leia would then presumably tell him not worry, they know where it is thanks to Han, and sends a ship to bring him back to base so he can hop in his black x-wing and meet up with everyone else at Takodana (does Poe arrive late to that fight, per chance?)

2. Han didn't call Leia. This means the only way Leia would know to send her guys to Takodana in time is through Poe, like MSW's source said. That means something more went on with Poe on Jakku that allowed him to find out about the circumstances that sent BB-8 off planet with the lightsaber. Whatever that ends up being.

I think even the first scenario would allow Poe to have potentially come to Jakku in search of Rey (with the lightsaber being a means to that end). Because if he was out of options, couldn't find BB-8 let alone Rey, he'd call Leia to report in, and if Han had indeed contacted Leia at this point, she'd be able to update Poe about the situation.

 

Also, BB8 might call the Resistance Base himself once he's on the Falcon. Which opens a Pandora's box of new questions. BB8 reminds me very much of R2D2 in ANH. I think that little droid knows more than we think he does, and he isn't going to tell just anyone.

Yeah, Poe and BB8 might both have some 'splainin' to do , as far as I'm concerned.

 

The MSW synopsis is clearly missing a lot of scenes.

Both of your scenarios seem plausible, perhaps Poe met Luke on Jakku and he updated him on the situation? Or another simpler explanation is Leia knew they would need help on Takodana through the force, just like Luke did on TESB.

 

I really like both of those ideas, Aglarion.

 

MVS has the saber, Gives to Poe...First Order attacks Poe puts saber into BB8, records message for Han Solo ..Poe creates diversion so bb8 can escape...Poe is captured by First Order....bb8 is captured by trader then acquired by Rey.....Finn crash lands and meets Rey in a village....First Order attacks....at some point bb8 tells Rey it has a message for Solo. ...when they finally meet bb8 shows Solo Poes message and gives him the lightsaber.

 

Ha wouldn't surprise me at all if Poe recorded a message using BB-8. He's already mirroring Leia's ANH arc in other ways so why not this as well.

 

Well said my friend.