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Poll: How do you feel about JJ directing Episode IX?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Darth Daigo, Sep 12, 2017.

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How do you feel about JJ directing IX?

  1. Great!

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  2. Meh ...

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  3. Nooo!!!

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  1. Meister Yoda

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    Most likely the emperor (snoke) will die and the resistance/rebels win, probably Vader/Kylo might repent too, so it will be a rehash to some, no matter what.
     
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    What if kylo is redeemed in TLJ? I just don't ever want to see starkiller ever again, or a death star, or a morbid sun, whatever. No Jabba jr. No ewoks. For the love of god if Akbar says it's a trap ill die. Nothing like that. No memberberries please.
     
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    I can't say that I am very enthusiastic, but I did enjoy watching TFA. While the story was not original, I did like the new characters (Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo Ren). My concern is the supposed lack of a road map. TFA raised several questions, and I hope that we will get satisfying answers to these questions.
     
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    I tend to agree. I even like the rathtars: kinda campy monsters show up in every OT film, and so for me are part of the Star Wars DNA. But SKB is a pretty big flaw: the main thing that still throws me out of the film every time I watch it. Then again, I have re-watched it many times, so it obviously isn't a fatal flaw for me...
     
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    Not ecstatic but certaintly not meh or noooo either... I was much more sceptic about Trevorrow and his directing-writing skills. Now I know that IX will at least be a solid movie. As for those who are afraid that it may be similar to ROTJ, I doubt it will. TFA was a reintroduction to the universe for new fans and it also had to introduce new heroes. That's why it had a familiar structure. I don't think it was JJ's decision only, I think that it was more Kennedy's...

    The worst case scenario is that Kennedy wants this trilogy to be a soft reboot of the OT, because I can remember people claiming that the scene from the trailer of TLJ, where the red smoke speeders go to fight the AT-ATs, is similar to the one from Hoth... So, some things may not be up to JJ or Rian, they may just be orders from Kennedy...
     
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    Starkiller is always referred to as the 'Evil Castle' in production: that is what is is, an evil castle from which are heroes must rescue the protagonist and escape. It has a completely different function than the deathstar had in the third act of A New Hope.
     
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    That might be true, but it's an obvious re-tooling of the Death Star. They even hang a lampshade on it in the dialogue. Like I said, I still like the movie a lot, but this made me wince, and still gets under my skin.
     
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    I voted great because of his great success with TFA & now he gets the chance to close this trilogy with hopefully another successful one.
     
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    I think (hope?) lessons have been learnt, both by KK and JJA. And the succes of R1 vs the "safe bet" TFA was, has made some opinions change in Dsney's minds.

    Hmmmm. Stop with the duality good/evil, jedi/sith. It's time to end. Snoke will discover the power of love in Mon Mothma's arms and bed, and this will be the beginning of a new era.
     
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    Wasn't TFA the bigger success?

    That would be somewhat original, even more if kylo goes all evil and dies while snoke is redeemed.
     
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    I don't know what you mean by "success"
    What I wanted to say is that the TFA plot was "less original" than the R1 one, although R1 was strictly bounded when on the contrary TFA had open field in terms of protagonists and era.
    More : TFA is a "standard SW movie" when R1 is a spin off, that means it got its proper personality (no opening crawl, just to say).

    And in the end, it seems to me R1 got less haters than TFA. That is what I wanted to say when comparing the "success of R1" vs "the safe bet of TFA".
     
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    Kennedy wants to replicate the feeling, not the content per se. and as others have pointed out, TFA did that. yes, there's goofy stuff in there purely for absurd callback (Han Solo making fun of Starkiller demonstrates it was intended to be tongue-in-cheek). and yes, that maybe backfired a little. Starkiller doesn't bother me, though i wish they hadn't just blown it up in the first movie--cripple it maybe, but just to avoid the total Death Star redux they could have let it linger as a mobile base of operations that the FO can't fully repair because of interference from the war--something like that.

    i am confident Rian will take this story in a crazy new direction and he and JJ will work toward the gratifying Star Warsy end that Kennedy wants. i trust this vision. nothing serious has set off any alarm bells for me at this point. : D
     
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    I think destroying SKB was a safer way of not repeating the DS's survival in ANH. If SKB survived and shows up in IX, we are truly repeating the OT at that point. It was likely created as a callback, and then permanently removed, so the rest of the ST can move in another direction.
     
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    the only reason i like their destroying Starkiller is because it gave Han a final resting place that's intensely symbolic.
    otherwise i would have preferred to keep it---it had snow! : D

    and also i'm not so chuffed about this problem of "redundancy" other people have.
    we're okay with redundant light saber duels and Force magic, but not with Death Stars? meh. that's just personal preference.

    and Star Wars has always been a pastiche of other very redundant adventure tales: rescuing princesses, toppling evil overloards, etc.
    so i'm perfectly okay with it being a pastiche of itself, which i think TFA accomplished wonderfully.

    it's not about Death Stars and sarlaacs and whatever anyway. : o p
     
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    Im not in that camp that says tfa was anh in disguise. But like you said the silly call backs irritate me slightly. I dont want that.

    Originally there was only one death star, but they had to destroy it because no one knew there would be a sequel, or if SW was going to be successful. I would have like to have seen starkiller survive, or not be in it at all. No SK2! Please.
     
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    I agree. Ha went out in a brilliant explosion and a sun was reborn. He would not have wanted it any other way.

    I found myself getting excited when I would see something in TFA that reminded me of the OT, and I actually saw many more ROTJ moments in TFA than ANH.
     
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    i agree ~ we can't do it again now. but i also feel confident they won't.
    the new massive threat will be whatever weird Force-induced galaxy-sucking energy that Snoke's got up his sleeve once he has full access to his powers. the FS peeps will go to dump the proverbial bucket of water on him and the Resistance will fight the FO in the meantime.

    in my fantasy of how it all works out, the New Republic and the FO and Snoke are all fighting each other, which leads the NR and FO to have to negotiate a truce to align themselves against the bigger threat. this leaves the end of the ST with the possibility of a limbo from which to continue: the NR and FO split the galaxy and we enter a cold war state in which nobody wins, though Snoke is defeated.
     
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    I loved both TFA and R1, but I think R1 had the more original plot (though with a couple flaws), whereas TFA had far better characterization. Despite the problems I had with TFA (mainly SKB), I fell in love with the new characters, all of whom were three-dimensional and had satisfying arcs. JJ isn't so great with worldbuilding or plot, but he knows how to create moods and evocative characters. It might seem like heresy to say this among a crowd of scifi and fantasy fans who love worldbuilding, but to me it all comes down to character and mood.
     
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    I think it's absolutely possible that Snoke or Kylo survives this trilogy if, and only if, a further episodic trilogy (X, XI and XII) is planned: Kylo could attempt to redeem himself before being killed in cold blood by Snoke, or Kylo could go darker and be redeemed in the next trilogy (which, by the way, would perfectly mirror Anakin's ascent and fall) if ever at all.

    VII was very much a return to form for the franchise, and whilst I initially loved Rogue One more than I did The Force Awakens, I think it's much weaker on repeat viewings (as the tension and excitement present throughout the third act is ultimately lost when you know the outcome anyhow) and can serve to show us that bigger doesn't equate to better. I mean, just look at how intimate pivotal third act OT scenes such as the trench run in ANH, Vader vs. Luke and the latter's choice in TESB, or Vader vs. Luke with The Emperor in ROTJ.

    Whilst I feel that TFA could have attempted to have less visual and thematic nods to the OT - all three of them, but of course ANH in particular - I would argue that an intimate clash in the third act is required to make a film timeless, and is exactly why Star Wars films are viewed as such.
     
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    You are totally right: they shouldn't have blown up Starkiller. It's my only major gripe towards TFA. The other smaller one is Phasma, she really was redundant. As for directors, I'm just happy that they at Lucasfilm aknowledge that making a Star Wars movie is actually pretty difficult. If you don't understand the language, you shouldn't ever try to speak it. Abrams, Edwards and Johnson and Howard appear to speak the language perfectly well.
     
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