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POLL: Kylo Ren VS Rey (win, lose or draw)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by harvywallbanger, Jan 5, 2016.

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Kylo vs Rey : Who won?

  1. Kylo

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  2. Rey

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  3. Draw

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  1. harvywallbanger

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    Seems like everyone is convinced Kylo was beaten by Rey. Even people who defend Kylo admit he was defeated but sight his injury as a reason.

    How about he was never defeated? Had the ground not broke away and Rey advanced who is to say Kylo wasn't about to subdue her with the force and go serious bat blast crazy on her?

    I seen Kylo knocked down but I NEVER seen him defeated. Did anyone here see him tap out or say uncle? Did anyone here see him get knocked out and/or withdraw from the fight?

    If so by those standards the gentleman below lost EVERY fight he was in.
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    I think he was defeated, and I think his defeat happened earlier when she was able to literally get inside his head. She had him completely unhinged, and his severe injuries didn't help. The fact that she didn't finish him off in the end doesn't take away from the fact that she could have.

    Kylo got beat.
     
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    It was clearly a draw. Rey put his saber into the ground before breaking it. She had him SUBMIT before taking advantage of the ground sepersting them .
     
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    Nobody wanted to see Adrian step in the ring and beat the crap out of Rocky...

    JJ made Kylo into a straight-up beeotch - which was the entire point of the movie!

    To present women as strong and men as weak.
     
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    Oh no...
     
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    What other conclusion can you come to?

    Rey has all the answers to every problem.

    She doesn't make a single mistake the entire film.

    And she learns the ways of the force in the blink of an eye.

    Beating a guy who was trained by Luke AND Snoke (who may very well be Plagueis).
     
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    Sounds like a bad ass Vhlor to me, why complain about it?

    DFF she is not a typical girl. I guarantee you she was trained in the force.

    KYLO:

    1. She is beginning to detect her power.

    2. The longer she (cant remember exact words) the more dangerous she becomes.

    there is more to her than what we have seen!
     
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    I say Rey won, but I don't think she would have been able to leave unscathed if the ground didn't cave. By then, Ren, bleeding out from Chewie's shot, having killed his father, and having Rey awaken due to his own tampering, he was a wild beast who somehow through all of that was able to fight. Don't forget about Finn, who we know from Before The Awakening is a weapons expert, as we see him easily adapt to many weapons throughout the film. So while he defeated Finn, who was a decent fight, Rey barely beat him because she was the embodiment of all his plans goen wrong. With his father dead, he would truly embrace the Dark Side and kill this little girl, when instead he helped awaken one instead. If the ground had not shaken, he woul dhave been even more crazed and angered, and I would not be surprised if Rey would have stab wounds and major cuts similar to Obi-Wans in AoTC, except in a larger number covering her.
     
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    Completely agree. I will go so far to say Kylo treated Rey as Vader did Luke in TESB.

    He knows her.

    He didn't want to kill her.

    Things got out of hand.

    Ground gave way.

    Lucky for Rey cause all hell was about to break loose.
     
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    Anyone who judges this based upon gender is truly clouded. Look at the circumstances of the fight. Whether you think Kylo won, lost or drew, it should be based upon the information we received in the movie. If the argument is that "girls can't fight boys," then take that attitude and leave.

    Or, at the very least, be honest about it.
     
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    When Kylo first fought with fin, he seemed to test him, almost amused, until fin caught him with the sabre in the arm, then he ended the fight immediately. when he went in to the fight with rey i think he was assessing her skill with the sabre in the same way he did with fin, he even said i "you need a teacher" he was not looking to end the fight, just see where her natural abilities were, i think she caught him off guard when she fully awoke to the force inside her?
     
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    Exactly how it happened. And people act like he was a wussy. If someone can't tell he held back on Rey they were watching a different film.

    It was like me fighting with my sister when I was a kid. I could grab her and choke her to death if I wanted but she got the best of me in most cases.
     
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    Look, if a woman like Rey could beat the crap out of a guy like Ren in real life, then by all means put this scene in the movie.

    The real world however is a little bit different, so Rey's victory against even an injured Ren came across to me as very hard to swallow.

    Because in reality, when women are pitted against men in combat, they will lose every single time. GI Jane is a fantasy.
     
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    Tell that to holley holm or rohnda rousey. With a straight face before it gets broken, lol.
     
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    Put either of these women in the ring even with a glass joe level fighter and they would lose and lose badly.
     
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    I wouldn't tell that to my sister let alone them... yikes.
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    I have been in many fights. Lots of bar fights. I have won about as many as I lost. I've been in serious blood baths so when I say I have lost as many as I won don't take me lightly.

    Those girls on UFC would kill me in one round. I;m gonna take a guess I could beat you since all I ever did my entire life was fight.

    You are delusional laser brain.

    I can kick ass. serious ass at a bar. The top woman fighters would make me, a bar fighter, look like a Vhlor on tv.

    What do you think Rey could do being force sensitive?
     
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    I don't lose....Andy Kaufman, show me the darkness of misogyny.

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    And Jerry "the king" lawyer said he never worked with someone as special as Andy. What is your point?
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    Is that you lol?
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    if that's you in the pic Ill repledge myself to you u crazy Nerfherder haha
     
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    Both are still alive....Draw....

    Didn't realize anyone cared....
     
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