Poll: Who do you think is telling the truth about TFA story authorship, JJ or Lucas?

Lucas said that he hasn't been involved in the making of TFA since he sold Lucasfilm and that he looks forward to being surprised on December 18. If he doesn't know anything more than we do, why should we trust him?

 

It's true. All of it.

 

JJ is right. George makes up so many stories you never know which one is true.

 

I still believe that they used some of Lucas big picture ideas and just moved around the chess pieces.

For example, Solo could have had a small role in Lucas version where he gets a major role in JJ/Kasdan's version.

Supposedly Lucas version had Rey & Finn as Padme's age in Episode 1, where they are now closer to Luke/Leia's age from ANH.

The irony is I think this is the best of both worlds for the fans. Lucas is a big ideas guy but his writing and directing skills are what hurt the PT. If TFA contains Lucas broad story, Kasdan's writing and JJ's directing, then its a good mix, IMO.

 

I think they're using parts of Lucas broad story, but I think it came down to control and that is where the divorce happened.

Lucas sold to Disney and probably still thought he could control the whole process. Disney probably liked some of his ideas but not all and Lucas was probably hurt that they didn't as they wanted throw out this part and that part but keep another part. But the thing is there was never a script from Lucas and that is why Disney essentially wrote their own new story using certain plot points from Lucas outlines.

 

I think both George and JJ are correct. George said they did not use his story and JJ never claimed they did. If you look at what JJ said, he said the movie was built upon the "spirit" of what George wrote. it does not say they used what George wrote. I think George had some very specific ideas of what he wanted to have happen and a lot of those were changed. However I think some of the broader ideas were used but the finer details of those are different. Even KK alluded that in one of her quotes. I don't have time to find the quote at this moment but it basically said they changed things just like things get changed in the process of any story.

 

George is notorious for distancing himself from the work other people do on SW. Many of the EU writers had meetings with him about who they could and couldn't kill off, ideas and so. Later Lucas was quite clear that in many cases "they did it very differently than I would." So I think that there is some of that going on here.

JJ I think is suggesting in many of his comments 2 things. The results of the OT and PT were well laid out and where the characters would go next was quite clear they all had a next step that was clear, Luke had to pass on what he learned, Leia had a republic to reform, Han well Han had to wrap his head around being attached to people outside himself.

Further I think the spirit of what George said he wanted to do "Pass the baton to the next generation" and "look at the hard moral choices of creating a lasting peace." Are very much what the new trilogy will focus. Where there is divergence is in execution. They are telling a story differently.

I think Lucas hit the nail on the head when he said "I wanted to tell a story they wanted to make a movie for fans."

I still don't think Lucas is powerless, he is one of the largest holder in Disney stock. Further I think he will be the cavalry if the films don't do well.

 

I agree with you Rebo.

George used outlines a lot like most writers do.

 

You should vote for the last option then. It's there for people who don't believe Bob Iger when he said they bought a detailed story treatment for the ST.

 

How was this off-topic to the person who chimed in with OFF-TOPIC?

WE are talking about Lucas right?

 

I'm surprised that there is an agreement by fans that this is a story by Lucas, given what's been said. I guess Lucas could use this perception to his advantage if he wanted.