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SPOILER Possible big-plot connection for the Mandalorian (spoiler if true)

Discussion in 'The Mandalorian' started by Angelman, Sep 5, 2019.

  1. Angelman

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    Hi all,

    I call this “spoiler” just in case I’m right. :rolleyes: Also, I’m basing my theory off of the leaked SW Celebration’s trailer (itself a spoiler). My apologies if this has been discussed before. I can’t remember having seen it.

    So, I have a theory about The Mandalorian's plot… oh dear! :oops:

    We don’t know too much about the series’ plot yet but there’s a connecting-the-dots thing with the information we have got that might point to something rather big in the SW scheme of things.

    First, a caveat: Jon Favreau has given us 3 timeline dates for The Mandalorian: 7 years after RotJ(=11ABY); 7 years after ANH (i.e. 3y after RotJ=7ABY); and lastly, at Star Wars Celebration 2019 (which was verified at D23 Expo), 5 years after RotJ (=9ABY).

    From the Celebration trailer, we know our Mandalorian takes on a cold case job with a 50 year old trail. But we do not know what it is about. I’ve had a suspicion, assuming 9ABY is the correct starting date for show, but haven’t pushed it before now. The Mandalorian Disney+ poster thingy offers possible circumstantial evidence to tangentially back my suspicion… Here’s the image.

    The Mandalorian.png

    The image, with the twin suns desert scape, moisture vaporators, and Jawa sandcrawlers… this is Tatooine, right? :cool:

    Guess what happens on Tatooine 50 years prior to 9 ABY (i.e. in 41 BBY)? Anakin Skywalker is born… Could our Mandalorian’s main mission and series central plot be tied to Anakin’s birth or “miraculous” conception, somehow? Perhaps not directly, but possibly the Mandalorian is sent to find something tangentially connected to all that? Giving us some backstory there?

    What’ya all think? Could there be something too this? (boba fett)
     
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    Hi all,
    Just to continue whipping this dead (?) Tauntaun, this is my transcription of the job hiring scene :)

    For reference, her's a link to the Celebration long-clip:



    Greef Carga (Weathers): “There is one job.”
    Mando: “Let’s see the puck [target id?].”
    Greef Carga: “No puck. Face-to-face, direct commission. Deep pocket.”
    Mando: “Underworld?”
    Greef Carga: “Do you want the chit or not?”

    MANDO TAKES THE CHIT AND LEAVES. GOES TO HERZOG’S PLACE

    Nameless Taskmaster (Herzog): “Greef Carga said you were coming.”
    Mando: “What else did he say?”
    Taksmaster: “He said you were the best in the parsec.”

    DOOR OPENS & DR: PERSHIN ENTERS UNEXPECTEDLY.
    MANDO DRAWS WEAPONS. MANDO & STORMTROOPERS IN MEXICAN STAND-OF


    Dr. Pershin: “No! No-no-no, pardon. Ah, Sorry, I didn’t mean to alarm…”
    Taskmaster: This is Dr. Pershin. Please excuse his lack of decorum. His enthusiasm outweighs his discretion. Please lower your blaster.”
    Mando: “Tell them to lower theirs first.”
    Stormtrooper: “We have you 4 to 1.”
    Mando: “I like those odds.”
    Taskmaster (Herzog): “He [i.e. Greef Carga] also said you were expensive… very expensive. Please sit.”

    GUNS ARE LOWERED. WE SIT DOWN. TASKMASTER UNWRAPS THE PAYMENT.

    Mando: “Beskar”?
    Taskmaster: “Go ahead, it’s real. This is only a down payment. I’ve come to [? “to a tone of”?] of beskar waiting for you upon delivery of the asset.”
    Dr. Pershin: “Alive.”
    Taskmaster: “Yes, alive. Although I acknowledge that bounty hunting is a complicated profession. This being the case, proof of termination is also acceptable for a lower fee.”
    Dr. Pershin: “That is not what we agreed upon.”
    Taskmaster: “I’m simply being pragmatic.”
    Mando: “Let’s see the puck [target id?].”
    Taskmaster: “I’m afraid discretion dictates a less traditional agreement. We can only offer you a tracking fob.”
    Mando: “What’s the chain code.”
    Taskmaster: “We can only provide the last four digits.”
    Mando: “Their age? That’s all you can give me?”
    Taskmaster: “Yes. They’re 50 years old [i.e. 41 BBY]. We can also give you last reported position of data. Between that and the fob a man of your skill should make short work of this.”

    MANDO GETS UP TO LEAVE

    Taskmaster: “The beskar belongs back into the hands of a mandalorian. It is good to restore the natural order of things after a period of such disarray. Don’t you agree?”

    MANDO LEAVES WITHOUT ANSWERING.

    ---

    Taskmaster monologue later in the trailer: “The Empire improves every system it touches. Judge by any metric; safety, prosperity, peace… Comparing Imperial rule to what is happening now. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution? Look outside… [muffled] at death and chaos.”​



    So, Taskmaster Herzog loves the Empire. He hires, in cooperation with the enthusiastic Dr. Pershin, the Mandalorian to find, and possibly terminate, someone/something whose trail is 50 years old and cold. Dr. Pershin – what kind of doctor he is we don’t know – desperately wants the target brought in alive. Empire-loving Taskmaster, however, is comfortable with paying good money to see the target terminated. So, what on Earth are they after?

    A “doctor” makes my mind jump immediately to medicine, and from there to cloning… But it could be anything, of course. Could Anakin’s birth/conception tie into this, somehow?

    Interesting side note; I find Taskmaster’s voice/articulation in the scene evoking Littlefinger/Aiden Gillen in GoT. Oh, and Herzog is marvelous in this scene! :D
     
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    This looks incredible! Disney can take all my money for D+!!

    On the target. How does the timeline match up to Shmi? If the emperor used some force Juju on her to create Anakin, maybe it made her able to survive? Or if she was somehow unique in her ability to give birth to a chosen one, could Palpatine have resurrected her?
     
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    This is an interesting take on the trailer. By matching up the timeline and promo image with Tatooine that could certainly have something to do with Anakin's origin or identity. The question is, who is this 50-year-old person that he is searching for? Is he searching for Anakin's family member or maybe one of the kids we see in Phantom Menace who could verify early information about the fallen Jedi Knight, or maybe someone we haven't even met yet?

    Your use of the term "cold case" is curious here. Cold case assumes that others have tried and failed to solve a mystery in the past. I'm not sure if that's what we've got here. It feels more like a clandestine mission where the identity of the target is known and important to the people putting out the contract. The fact that the vitality of this target is a disputed result between the imperial officer and the doctor leads me to believe that this person is dangerous. That danger could be information or physical ability or both.

    I'm excited about the potential of this film to retrace the steps of the saga and recontextualize the stories and GFFA we have seen over the years but through the eyes of someone who lives there and struggles with the consequences of what we've seen on the big screen.
     
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    This is fascinating info - thanks for sharing. As I read the dialogue, it appears the target is fifty years old (not the case itself). I immediately wonder if the target in question is Anakin himself. Its possible that the Empire that survived after "Return of the Jedi" had no knowledge that Anakin became Vader and were trying to track down one of the last unaccounted for Jedi. According to "Bloodline," the galaxy-at-large didn't learn that Anakin became Vader until six years prior to "The Force Awakens."

    While the prospect that Anakin is the target seems compelling to me, I'm skeptical that he's actually the target in "The Mandalorian." Perhaps he had a twin! More likely, I'm guessing the target is a new character. Looking forward to finding out more in the coming weeks!
     
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    Of course, since this is a trailer things may have been changed around, but I think it is crystal clear from the dialoge that in this trailer the age references the "teacking fob" with its incomplete "chain code" that only reveal its age (sort of like how a piece of your social security number reveals your age (or at least it does in Norway... I've got no idea what all y'alls ss numbers look like :p )).
     
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    So, apparently there will be a major SW setting spoiler revealed in the first episode of The Mandalorian. It it has anything to do with the 50-year-old trail that takes us to Tatooine, it has to be Skywalker-related, right? :)
     
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    If the leaks regarding The Rise of Skywalker are to believed there might be another character with an unrevealed history tied to Tatooine.
     
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    It's Rex... Just an FYI. He is looking for Rex. Or at least, another notable clone. Could be he is helping Obi-Wan keep an eye on Luke while he is off on a 6 part mission. The Mando tracks down the clone... The spoiler is that perhaps we find out a little about what Old Ben is out doing... It's a stretch, but that is what is fun about speculation.
     
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    I do not understand what you are saying, @Crusifix. The Mandalorian takes place 5 years after RotJ. How does Old Ben watching Luke feature into the plot in any way? Are you suggesting Mando traveling back in time to interact with Kenobi and Rex, somehow? I'm confused.

    If you're talking about the 50 year old trail that the Mando is hired to follow, than that can't have anything to do with Rex as he wouldn't be created for another 9 years after that date. The Mando’s job is looking for someone whose trail dates back to 41 BBY, but the clones were created in the year 32 BBY.

    I’m sorry, but I need some help to grasp your theory here…
     
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    Yeah, I merged two thoughts together. LOL I had one theory on my mind for another thread, and made a brain fart.
     
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    It happens to the best of us :D
    (We totally need Rex to feature in the Kenobi show, though! ...unless that breaks the canon in some way that I don't remember ;) ).
     
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    Jason Ward mentioned something that's probably a good guess. Boba Fett's fate being revealed kind of makes sense. Plus, he has ties to Tatooine, carbonite, cloning, and a long history.
     
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    There was a rumor years ago that one of the plots for the Josh Trank’s Boba Fett movie is that the original was killed off at the beginning of the movie and that another stole his armor and identity.

    I am not saying that is what is going on with the Mandalorian but deff an interesting possibility.


    Also when the OP @Angelman was talking about Jon Favreau and when the story takes place, I thought we were leading towards a totally different path with this thread. If the story has remained the same and Jon Favreau has indeed mentioned different times for the story, we could be dealing with multiple timelines in each episode (A La Westworld).
     
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    but this though, does that mean they have tracking on the 50 year old guy?
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 29, 2019, Original Post Date: Oct 29, 2019 ---
    oh missed this bit, so if that last tracked position is somewhere around Endor.....
     
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    He's dead...
     
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    I think you could be right, but it will be why this promising Jedi just disappeared without trace and what happened to him?
     
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    Who said he wasn't? That hasn't stopped plenty of speculation about his fate. Plus, he's another bounty hunter on Tatooine wearing the same armor. Seems like it has to be brought up at some point. This is set 5 years after his death.
     
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    Boba Fett is too young to fit into the 50 year old bracket, and how would they have had some tracker on Vader!! They did say The Mandalorian would cover the rise and early development of the First Order so what about this 50 year old man being Snoke?...
     
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    My first thought, given the "cold" nature of this case (and the new droids in the trailer) was that this could be related to Sifo-Dyas's mission to Kamino.

    But apparently that was more around 32aby, so that would be off.

    Tying this to Anakin is interesting, though, @Angelman. I'd be down for that.
     
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