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Potential Inconsistency? Which Planet does the Death Star destroy first?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Travcon, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Rieekan

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    Wow that's a cool theory and it would be a great plot device. The Empire could use that info to keep making the Rebels look like the bad guys and that way keep other sistems as Imperial sympathizers.
     
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    I just don't think Jedha is going to get destroyed. Wouldn't that be the ultimate way to avoid an inconsistency?

    That's not to say it won't get messed up. ;)
     
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    Well it could be that the empire tries a test on it but Jyn and all manage to sabotage it, so, instead of obliterating the moon/planet/whatever, it only scars the planet similar to how they wiped out Geonisis
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    Good point. Since Jedha is a moon and not a planet.
     
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    I don't think it gets destroyed either. They aren't going to intentionally blow up a source of a precious mineral like kyber crystal.
     
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    Well, considering that IV is definitely "hard Canon", there's NO WAY that they're going to contradict it by "destroying" another planet (like they did to Alderaan) before Iv, BUT that's not to say that they won't leave a scorched surface on Jedha or even leave a 50 mile wide crater where a city used to be....but they won't destroy the planet. I only say that because Tarkin said "....test the FULL power of this battle station." in IV which leads me to believe that they'll no doubt leave some death and destruction in their wake in R1, but not destroy the entire planet.
     
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    Here's my hypothesis:

    Jedha only gets ripped apart by the Death Star's laser beam, not blown up ("BOOM!") like Alderaan. That would explain the big dust cloud in the trailer, which I believe shows the planet crust slowly fracturing.
    I think this is done to 1) make sure the laser is focused and 2) possibly unearth the Kyber crystals within the planet (which can be used for weapons by the Empire.)

    Is it an inconsistency? Maybe, at least "From a certain point of view."
     
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    It could look similar to Mandalor in the last Rebels Episode .
     
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    IMG_0117.PNG After watching the latest international R1 trailer we see:

    Jedha definitely gets destroyed, maybe not Alderaan level in totality, but significantly beyond just the surface or a small area of the surface getting scorched. I guess if the planet, or moon shall we say, is at least partially intact it leaves enough wiggle room to allow for Tarkin to be technically correct. It looks like though it will be a nit pickers delight unfortunately.
     
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    That was Concorde Dawn. Not Mandalore.
     
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    That could be the case, but we don't have enough information to say things like "Jedha definitely gets destroyed." What we *can* say is that Jedha gets shot at and probably will end up with the scars to show it. But I think that will be a clear far cry from the instant destruction we saw in ANH, when the Death Star performed its first real demonstration of its power. In other words, no grey area.
     
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    The idea is that Alderaan was meant to be the first public demonstration of the Death Star's power. Dantooine was turned down as an option because it was seen as being "too remote" to make an effective demonstration. And I think that's exactly why the destruction of a good portion of Jedha isn't being treated as a "public demonstration" - it's a test in the middle of what is effectively nowhere by the Galaxy's standards. The only witnesses to the weapon either die with the explosion or make narrow escape (at which point it'd be too late to warn anyone about the Death Star because by the time word would get out, everyone would have seen what happened to Alderaan). We didn't drop the first nuke on Japan, after all - we tested one in the middle of our own desert to make sure that it would actually work. And it looks a lot like that first shot leaves a lot to be desired from the Empire's perspective.
     
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    yep I agree and every superweapon has to be tested anywhere, before it could be used for real demonstration. All nukes indeed have been tested numerous times before. ;)
     
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    TAGGI Until this battle station is fully
    operational we are vulnerable. The
    Rebel Alliance is too well equipped.
    They're more dangerous than you
    realize.

    Apparently he is worried about the defense mechanisms of the Death Star, that's the context I'm reading here.

    MOTTI The final check-out is complete. All
    systems are operational. What course
    shall we set?

    Have the weapons systems been operational prior to that?

    TARKIN Princess Leia, before your execution
    I would like you to be my guest at a
    ceremony that will make this battle
    station operational. No star system
    will dare oppose the Emperor now.


    A ceremony that culminates in the destruction (of the first planet)?

    LEIA The more you tighten your grip,
    Tarkin, the more star systems will
    slip through your fingers.


    TARKIN Not after we demonstrate the power
    of this station. In a way, you have
    determined the choice of the planet
    that'll be destroyed first.
    Since
    you are reluctant to provide us with
    the location of the Rebel base, I
    have chosen to test this station's
    destructive power... on your home
    planet of Alderaan.


    However, whether it's a moon that's obliterated or a planet is rather semantics, IMHO. The whole purpose is to show that the Death Star is capable to obliterate a celestial body, so I hope Rogue One will restrain itself to an operation that could have also been carried out by the Imperial Starfleet (to show Taggi that the Death Star can also do that kind of job...).
     
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    I think the DS is not fully operational, that's why Mothma says a weapons test is coming. They know there's this Death Star and what the potential could be but what they don't know is that it isn't fully operational yet. They test it on Jedha to see how much destruction they can cause and probably to try to wipe out all traces of Jedi/Force.
     
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