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Potential Spoiler Details Kinda Stuff.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by King3000, Sep 30, 2014.

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    WOW, we're getting into lots of details here. This thread is getting more and more interesting by the minute! I truly hope (at least some of) this is the real deal. Quite interesting stuff for me. While I do think the ripped-arm part may be too much of a homage or a rehash, the rest of it looks promising (again, I do not know if it is true or not, but the level of detailed description gets me really excited indeed. I need more King3000, bring it on!)
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    Well King has officially thrown a lot of theories for a loop

    edit: Mostly mine
     
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    SPOILERS;
    These posts have details & plot points(story elements) that make sense BUT....
    It's hard for us "civilians" to put them all in contexts.
    From what I have seen & read thus far; the Falcon is in a massive fire-fight(and may sustain severe damage). That may be where Chewbacca is wounded but NOT killed. Reports & rumors say there's a action scene where Han(Ford) yells; "Run Chewie!" so this may explain the film injury & possible how Harrison Ford get the leg/ankle injury for real.
    Ford's in his early 70s now so he's not a spry young lad, ;) .
    The damaged/wrecked AT-AT sounds legit. Where it is or how it's used is still not fully explained.
    I've seen set/story items that Han Solo is either retired from the entire Alliance or may be the top fleet general/commander. If he is retired, Lando might now be in charge. Like ROTJ but I'm not aware of Billy Dee Williams as part of EP7 so Lando may have been KIA which makes Solo depressed or burned-out & hanging out in bars.
    It could be a "flashback" or maybe tie into a link to Boba Fett & the Slave One. ;)
    It's a common link or perception that the younger characters will be the focus. This makes sense since younger viewers/new fans could relate to them more & the actors can carry over into future Star Wars films.
     
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    Boyega says "that's when I met you"? To who? Is this is a voiceover? Explaining when he met Kira? Confused.
     
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    This what KIng3000 said
    I believe him saying "I didn't want to fight" is about him being a Storm Trooper, maybe he was forced into it by the bad guys/empire, we don't really know this yet. The feeling is that Daisy and Boyega will fall in love at some point.
     
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    Well, this all sounds a lot better than a lightsaber just falling out of space.

    I'm more convinced than ever that Kira's a Solo.

    In the concept art, it looks like scaffolding around the Falcon on the desert planet, as if it's getting some work done? Which could be explained by the fact that it had just been in a scuffle?

    Would Lupita really just have a role at the Cantina? Or does this develop into something more? I just can't see her doing only a cameo, because she's such a hot actress right now.
     
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    Kira could still be Luke's daughter taken in by Han/Leia, but whether she knows it or not, is another question.
     
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    That just seems too convoluted and would involve too much backstory. Why wouldn't she just be Han and Leia's daughter? Especially if she's going to be trained by Luke anyway.
     
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    it's only a possibility
    it doesn't require back story at all as most of the rumors say that Luke has been missing for decades.
    and a relationship between niece and uncle and father and daughter is completely different.
    also it doesn't seem like Luke will train anybody as the current rumors indicate he's a villain.
     
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    There needs to be an explanation of who Luke's wife or partner was, how they met, how she died or where she is, how did Kira end up with Han and Leia.... Kira as Han and Leia's daughter...BOOM...we know the backstory. Her parents were a couple when we last saw them. I believe that Kira either had training from Luke or will in the future and that he's her uncle. She would already have a special relationship with him. As you say, uncle/niece is different from father/daughter. If Han is a big part of this movie, he's going to be pretty tied to the canvas, and I assume that means kid(s). And I'm gonna make that leap and assume that one of the leads is his kid.
     
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    Completely disagree but whatever to each their own.;)
     
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    You know, this could be pretty cool. At first we are led to believe she is a street rat, ten minutes in she is revealed to the audience as a solo, end if movie we (and she) discover she is actually Luke's .

    Could add depth to Han dying he gives his life for his adopted daughter/niece.

    Doesn't jive with her "quest to find Luke" but maybe it's really Han looking for Luke. He discovers he's alive somewhere and the story begins. He's the hero.

    As far as it being too much backstory, it's been 30 years there will be backstory. Plus something has to explain like missing.

    Only thing is maybe this should be episode X??

    Cartoon to fill in the gaps one day?
     
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    The Falcon does have a new square/rectangle type dish(no longer big & round).
    It's POSSIBLE, there may be a space-battle/fight, the ship is trashed but not destroyed/scuttled in the first act of EP7 then later there's a "montage" of Han, Chewie, Leia, Luke, and the gang(new young characters) rebuilding the "fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy" to a new, sleeker, more advanced spacecraft. ;)
    The young cast or maybe the whole group can swoop off & face the "ancient fear"(bad guys/evil) in the climax with the Falcon's improved weapons & avionics.
    The ship was used for smuggling so it COULD hide a bomb or WMD. This may deter the villian(s) but not fully ruin them leaving a opening for EP8.
     
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    If Daisy is Han's daughter, maybe at the end he sacrifices himself to save her?
     
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    @King3000
    Who says Solo has 25 bounties on his head, Boba Fett or Lupita Nyong'o the bartender?
     
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    @King3000

    Do John and Daisy have British accents?
     
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    King, I have no idea where you get this stuff, but I would sure like to be a fly on your wall.

    And don't forget the unpaid parking tickets...

    Let's not forget that Fett is a bounty hunter... a professional... I would say that he never had any hatred for Solo, it was just a job. If anything, he would probably have some grudging respect for a couple guys capable of putting him down, it probably didn't happen very often. Unless there is some matter of pride (which is very counter to being a professional) there is nothing stopping him from picking up bounties from the Alliance. The remnant probably isn't as capable of supplying bounties as they used to...

    We have reports that the chromies are with the Warlord, and as we know I believe this to represent a third faction, potentially Luke and his men going after hard targets in an attempt to bring them to justice... is it possible that the stormtrooper that Boyega is could be part of this third faction, and be part of the attack on an Imperial target... one that Han is also going after, or is chasing Han, and that is how the third faction gets brought into this fight? It would explain how stormtroopers could be good in this regard, and potentially Boyega even being Lando's son... if that faction of troopers isn't bad per se, then when Daisy finds him in the desert, rather than killing him as an enemy, she would be more likely to give him aid.

    She could be Luke's daughter, and traveling with Han because everyone thinks Luke is dead...

    Part of the fun of storytelling is knowing something the audience doesn't, and choosing the way in which that information is revealed... Having a moment with Harrison and Daisy where he says, "I know you miss him, I miss him too" would take care of that, and then you know something happened... When she finally does meet Luke, he could say something like, "I saw your mother fall when I was captured, I just couldn't get to her in time. But that's ok, I escaped, and as you can see, I am making sure that they pay for what they have done"

    I'm not saying that will happen, but stories can unfold. SW is famous for, "yes, I told you that, and it was true from a certain point of view, but yes Vader is your father" and the like...
     
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    EP7 is motion picture!
    I hope Lucas & JJ opt to SHOW these scenes rather than have a character explain it. Not unlike Ben in the first act of ANH/EP4 telling Luke what happened to his father.
    I would think the Daisy character is more Leia & Han's daughter than Luke's. I agree it's more dramatic & compelling if Han's the Daisy girl's father then there is a end climax/battle where either Han & Chewbacca save her or Luke(surprise) swings into action & reveals himself to rampage against the evil villains.

    I'd add here that I would NOT read too much into it either. Im 100% sure Disney & George Lucas will keep the plot/story simple to follow. Something a 11/12 year old could watch or follow. Having a jumbled or twist/turn storyline would turn a lot of viewers off.
     
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    I just don't see what it adds to the story, quite frankly. If Kira is force-sensitive and has had training through Luke and may again in the future, that gives her a link to him, not only as her uncle, but through the force and as a jedi. That's a connection she wouldn't even have with her own parents (assuming Leia doesn't actively use the force). I think the big 3 need to be linked to the new generation and they get that through Han and Leia having a kid(s). I'm not even saying that any of the newbies will be related to the originals, but if they are the kids of the original 3, I'm going to assume it's Han and Leia before Luke.
     
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    Personally, I am looking forward to a couple characters that aren't force-users... a good scoundrel or two... maybe smuggler... and some new blood, someone who isn't related
     
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