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Predictably Bad: Leaks, Speculation, and Projections

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Rayjefury, Apr 20, 2019.

  1. Rayjefury

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    What does the title mean? We are all collectively speculating (because that's kind of what this forum is for), and other people are reporting rumors and alleged leaks that can feed our speculation. But have you ever gone back on youtube and looked at some of the older predictions and speculation based on alleged leaks and realized how incredibly detailed they were...

    ...and how comprehensively inaccurate and wrong they were?

    I just listened to this one (just for S&G's) and my God, I'm not sure there was ONE detail right. Not even one. Characters weren't even right. LOL. I don't mean to pick on the guy (because there are plenty off videos completely missing the target) but I think it just shows how wildly off base speculation can be.



    Anyway, post your favorite inaccurate prediction video (for TFA or TLJ) and list the things that they got wrong.
     
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    With that being said... I always find it super fascinating... the idea of concept story-design. So many concept ideas end up finding their way into future finished products.

    I believe speculation is a form of concept development :) #plagueis=episode9
     
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    Anything from Mike Zeroh. I watched his stuff for laughs. And recently before the teaser dropped he had this detailed teaser that was coming. Then when things do come out that he doesn't get right he acts like he's the one who got it right. He's never gotten anything correct. He has Zero accuracy
     
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    He was one that I noticed had a lot of details from a lot of leaks that NEVER seemed to line up to the finish product in any way
     
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    The sad thing is he STILL GETS VIEWS. I wish YouTube would do something.
     
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    At least he's aptly named.. it's right in his name! Zeroh% = Correct!

    I stumbled across him back when he first started posting and by the 3rd video I realized he was just making up stuff out of the blue lol. There are a few others like him that continually show up in my feed.
     
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    I don't see the harm. It's SW, not National Defense lol. He's having fun, I'm assuming those viewing him are having fun. It lets their minds roam. I've maybe watched a couple of his videos, and to me they seem harmless, if a bit of a waste of time (if I was feeling generous lol). It's not my thing, but obviously some people like his crazy ideas and I really don't see harm in letting him keep pouring them out for those who just want more SW content, regardless how inaccurate.

    I might feel different if I felt he was trolling, but he's not, he's just making a video on every idea regarding SW he has or he hears. If some people enjoy that content, I say more power to them. I have no intention to be the SW thought police lol.

    PS: That was my impression of him anyways. If he does do real trolls, slanders(liable) or something, that might be a bit different story, but it would have to be pretty serious for me to even think about youtube doing anything about him. Let him and his following have fun, SW fans know there's far too little of that in the fandom these days.
     
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    There's not a lot that can be done because some of these folks could legitimately believe they have some leaks and clues and are trying to piece it together. Look at the original youtube I linked for example. I think he really thought he had the scoop. He was 100% wrong, but he didn't know it (and we didn't know it) until the movie finally came out.
     
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    You consider this fun? "Then when things do come out that he doesn't get right he acts like he's the one who got it right." I wouldn't care if he BS is way to get views. It's the lying and claiming he's the one that said it first.
     
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    Gotta give the kid credit...it talks balls to talk through your ass 4-5 times a day and attach your face to it.

    People are so desperate for Star Wars information due to the production secrecy that he's just capitalizing on it.

    He's young and wouldn't surprise me if he lives with his folks so he's probably making enough with these videos to get by.

    Guess it beats working 9 to 5.

    Cheers, KH
     
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    I think it's funny. Not in the way I'd want to watch him, but just that it upsets people. My understanding is that he's speculating about SW. If he gets things wrong then he must be doing it in a way that's entertaining enough to get a following. That in itself is work as far as I'm concerned. Would his talent be better used elsewhere? Sure, something officially sanctioned by LFL would be better, but as it is, he's filling a niche and using his talents to provide a service to fans who are starving for information. Obviously, even the wildest speculation.

    As for him not admitting he's wrong, who does nowadays? I think it's obvious to all who watch him that he throws enough out there that the expectation is not that he'll be right more than wrong. It's to entertain with the possibilities. His craft isn't factual, it's in the possibilities. There's a market, he's filling it. I see no harm in that.
     
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    Daily Express is another one who just regurgitates mainly Mike Zeroh, but others too.
     
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    I don't understand where this idea comes from that he lies when he simply reports on what other people say. Even when he does that he never presents what he reports as hard facts. Maybe I'm not looking at the right videos but from what I've seen the hate is unwarranted.
     
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    I've never heard of this one. I remember prior to TFA I thought some of these bloggers actually were getting some actual leaked info and then speculating. I remember there were videos prior to TLJ talking about there being a sea monster on Ach To, and one actually showed up. It didn't play any role whatsoever, but it was there. I don't think they're all off based, but the overwhelming majority of them are just flat out wrong
     
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    Mike "The Hero" Zeroh love Star Wars but he also love attention. So he will stop posting videos on Youtube when his content (a mishmash of idle speculation, wild guesses, advanced theories and outright lies) doesnt give him attention anymore. In other words: If you dont like him you should ignore him and everything he does. You certainly shouldnt act like an a''hole and bully him like Rian Johnson did because that will not stop him.
     
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    Nobody is bullying him and neither did Rian.
     
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    Of course he didnt. The humble and mature Rian Johnson would never do something like that.
     
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    None of this seems unreasonable to me.

    That said however, Mike Zeroh isn't the only one doing videos allegedly based on leaks that end up being wildly off the mark. Everyone is speculating (even we are) but it's the ones that purport to do so with leaked materials that never seem to align to the movie that just struck me as odd when I first created this post.
     
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    Only one who has been attacked and maligned was Johnson. But he's a bully because of a couple of harmless tweets? Talk about lacking perspective. There was nothing mean or over the line in his tweets. They were simply responding to a YouTuber that, let’s face it, has a trash worthy record.
     
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    Rian Johnson is one of the biggest and most toxic trolls on Twitter. I despise him tbh. But this is off topic.
     
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