Prequel Highlights Fan Thread

TPM : Love the designs, art direction and costumes. Battle droids are great (voices not so much), Queen Amidala's costumes are works of art, Neimoidians look great (again, voices not so hot). Look of Tatooine sequences are lovely (shot on location in Tunisia!), Darth Maul's facial design is visual genius, pod race sound design is spectacular, final duel is among best in all SW movies.

AOTC: Love alien voices of Geonosians, love sound design in asteroid chase, love closing scenes with somber, "dusk" color palette.

ROTS: General Grievous is a fabulous creature design (again spoiled by poor voice acting, sadly), Obi-Wan vs Grievous chase scene and battle is great, Order 66 is great, Darth Sidious story about Plagueis is epic, final duel on Mustafar is beautiful.

 

I really loved how we got to see the Jedi Order before it was wiped out by the Empire. It was great seeing how they acted even though they had so many flaws that in my opinion helped alot in their downfall. I would have loved to have seen more Jedi Masters interacting with masterless Padawans like Yoda was doing when he was teaching the Bear Clan. The new aliens, ships and animals were fantastic and I really liked seeing oceans and an underwater habitat like we saw in Kamino and Naboo.

 

Well I don't like these films either but I would be a fool to say that nothing, not one single scene was ever good from the prequels, they have potential for expanding the Star Wars universe, to see what the galaxy was like before the dark times, before the Empire. So I have at least one scene from episodes I II and III to list.

The Phantom Menace: The one thing I truly do enjoy about the Phantom Menace is the Pod Racing, many can argue that the entire film is too bland with no interesting characters or really cripping situations to follow with the action. However the one that really felt like Star Wars was the Pod Racing, The build up, the Music, the speed, the intension and Sebulba. Next to the Darth Maul fight it is easily the most exciting moment in Episode I. Let's not forget it is based on Chariot Racing. I don't think it's truly a Star Wars film unless there's a classic films, novel, piece of history or theme that's referenced.

Attack of the Clones: Despite this one being my least favourite Star Wars movie there is one scene that makes me wish the film focused on that scene more. It's the scene where Dooku holds Obi Wan prisoner. It's a short and seemingly pointless part of the film but there's one line that really shows some backstory and a deeper and complex character behind Count Dooku.

"It's a pity we never crossed paths before, Obi Wan. Qui Gon often spoke very highly of you. I wish he were still alive...I could use his help right now"

We assume he says this because he wants Qui Gon to join him on the dark side just like Obi Wan assumes the same thing, but I feel that the opposite is true. He doesn't want Qui Gon to join him he wants Qui Gon to help him. There is something that explains Dooku's fall to the dark side having to do with Qui Gon's death. I like to think Dooku was having doubts about the jedi in a way similar to how Anakin had doubts in Episode III, but it was Qui Gon who made him stay because the two were very close friends. Now that Dooku is a Sith Lord and serves Palpatine I am convinced that he was having doubts about his choice to turn to the dark side, somewhere deep down he wants Qui Gon to return and give him guidance. What we could have got from this is something similar to Darth Vader turning luke to the Dark side in ROTJ. Doou's lost his apprentice so now he only has Obi Wan to convince to join him, not to be a sith but to help him destroy Palpatine just like Vader wanted Luke to help him do the same. George talked about having the prequels rhythm with the Originals so in AOTC we get an opposite scenario where instead of Helping Dooku like Luke tried to help Vader Obi Wan flat out rejects his offer, refuses his plea for help, because he does not know the full story. So while Vader dies as a redeemed man, Dooku dies as a damned man, killed by the very same man who would take the very same path he did.

Revenge of the Sith: Anakin's turn is argued by many as too rushed, there wasn't enough reason to have him do a complete 180 and do horrible things later on, When I saw this as 13 year old I accepted his turn completely I did not question anything about it, but as an adult now I've figured out why this scene is actually perfectly built up and perfectly set up. I know this won't convince everyone but hear me out.

We have to remember exactly everything that happened to Anakin, He's about to be a father, he has visions of his wife dying at child birth, his most trusted friend who knows more about him than even Obi Wan and the jedi tells him there's a way to save his wife, but in order to do it he must become a sith. Now if Anakin truly hated the jedi, if he really was as psychotic and evil as everyone says, he would have betrayed the Jedi immediately without any regret. But he doesn't want to and that's what holds him back to the very end. While Anakin still leans more to the Dark side he still tries his best to remain true to being a jedi so it took a lot of convincing from Palpatine to get him to fall. Let's not forget that the Jedi often said he is the chosen one and he is the most powerful jedi, but they refused to give him the rank of Master even though they put him on the council and to add insult to injury, they ask him to spy on his most trusted friend. That is a big sign that the Jedi do not trust him at all which is true mostly from Mace Windu.

Now to the big moment, Anakin is now stuck between a rock and a hard place, betray the jedi and save his wife or kill palpatine and risk letting his wife die and likely still be noting more than a tool for the Jedi. At the moment Mace is about to kill Palpatine, instead of killing Mace he makes one last attempt to gain his trust and find a middle option in his situation. Have Palpatine spared and arrested, without betraying the jedi, that way he can find out from Palpatine how to save Padme without any problem. He pleas to Mace to listen but because he did not listen Anakin had nothing but raw emotions and instincts guiding him and helps kill Windu. Now that Windu is dead Anakin falls back realizes in horror he killed a jedi, he killed a member of what could be considered his family. Even if it's a rule to forgive the jedi would not forgive him at all, only Obi Wan and Padme and even that wouldn't matter. He commited murder, betrayed the jedi utterly and now the only thing he has left is to save Padme and to become a Sith Lord.

That's why I love that scene it's the chosen one, trying everything to get out of a situation a terrible situation that dooms him. In any other story the chosen one would triumph no matter what, but in this film he becomes the unwilling and tradgic villain, because the jedi failed to understand that he was nothing more or less than a scared man.

Woah! that was a really long one, terribly sorry about that! ^^'

 

Isn't it the same music with the Snoke scene in the 1st video ?

 

The array of new planets did it for me. The overuse of CGI does bug me, but at times it's totally necessary - Kamino, man I love that place. Utapau looks awesome, Coruscant is completely different to anything seen in SW before, Mustafar looked imposing, Naboo looked beautiful (especially the lake scenes), Geonosis - the world building was brilliant

 

I wish the Cantina offered every single SW fan the very same chance to enjoy the movies they love but sadly this is not the case. This place is shock full of PT haters and trolls who don't want to accept that many fans love the PT as much or maybe even more than the OT or Disney's movies. You can't write anything lovable about the prequels without the negative quotes raining down or the trolls trying to force their opinions on others.

That said, I must say that one of the things I greatly loved about the prequels was the awesome new aliens and creatures that Lucas made to expand the SW mythos.




Apart from using so many favorite species from the OT, Lucas added much flair and diversity to the galaxy far far away in was that were mind blowing. The use of CGI helped so much as cool characters like Watto and Sebulba looked so lifelike and moved so fluidly.

 

There's really so much hate for the prequels here? Bunner! I'm doomed then because I think those movies are awesome and they are just as good as the OT and much better than TFA or RO. I like both SW movies made by Disney but to me at least they don't compare to the prequels.

 

You aren't "doomed." We are equal-opportunity Star Wars fans here. If some posters cannot respect the opinions of others, then contact me or another moderator. In the meantime, don't worry so much about the others and post what you want. This is a thread that celebrates the prequels. Celebrate away.

 

Oh great then! Thank you very much jmjawors!

 

This is hyperbole, and I'll address it in another post so that it's not off-topic. You're here in a thread that celebrates the prequels, there's no point doing the work of others by bringing negativity in.

I'm currently re-watching those three movies. I've always been a fan and supporter of the prequels, but I admit it's been a while since I watched AOTC. My memory was that it didn't look good; that George perhaps jumped the gun by shooting it all-digitally. My memory was wrong; it really looked great!

I know this was a more abstract aspect, but it was my most recent experience. It's not been that long since I last watched ROTS, but I'm looking forward to watching it again even more now that I've seen Episode II again.

 

I'm not bringing negativity in as you say. I'm addressing the OPs very comment of the negativity for the prequels here in the Cantina:

 

I wasn't attacking you. I was just trying to get us to move on to the positive stuff, rather than bring up the negative. Sorry if that didn't come across.

And now, without further ado (adieu?)... the positive stuff. Go.

 

Sweet! But I would love to know, as a moderator, what do you like alot from the prequels? I think everyone in the Cantina knows that apart from the story, I love the aliens and creatures more than anything but what are your likes? Did you dig the cool new planets, ships or droids? Did you like seeing the Jedi in a more ''civilized'' time?

 

Not wanting to rain on your parade and I am 100% a prequel fan but wasn't Force Speed used by Luke when he escaped the freeze chamber on Bespin? It had to be that because there is no possible way that Luke could move so fast.

 

It's interesting to note that some of the aliens you listed are pratical, people in make up and costumes and masks. I know that doesn't seem like a big deal cos you shouldn't judge films by effects unless it 's actually bad, used for scenes that either don't require it or if it does, don't go over board with it.. Still the PT haters seem to always point out that CGI is the main cause of why the films are bad. They watched Mr Plinkit's review of the trilogy and took it too seriously blindly believing that very single effect was CGI when in fact there are signs of practical effects as well for aliens, robots and places included. Miniture sets where used for Utapau and Tatooine was an actual set from the Original films. Just wanted to give out that little trivia.