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R.I.P. Maul.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by McDiarmid, May 26, 2017.

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    I think Ben Kenobi kills Maul so quickly because the Force is with him.
    in that moment, he conducts the will of the Force to protect chosen one..
     
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    Yes, that & it needs to be condensed in a 30 min. show.
     
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    It is NOT canonized fact. It is left for you to interpret from YOUR point of view.

    I believe Luke was the only one to return balance. But he had to turn Anakin first, before balance could come. Luke could not BE, without Anakin. They are both chosen, but the duty each played was different. BALANCE could not happen without one or the other. We needed BOTH.
     
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    The speed of the battle was intentional. The posturing and "sizing each other up" was the key to the battle. It mirrored samurais with how quickly the fight came to an end (the Jedi were heavily influenced by samurai) and it was about Kenobi recognizing maul was going to use the same move he put on Quigon. So he adjusted his stance and was able to quickly defeat Maul because he knew what was coming.

    I expected something more epic too. But the more I read about why the fight was staged the way it was, I think what we saw was perfect. (This was discussed in more detail elsewhere in here)
     
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    I couldn't agree more. After years of fighting, and at least one "death" (TPM) that I can think one, all the fury and passion, it was time for a different kind of intensity. The whole samurai way in which Obi-Wan has been approached in his solitude is perfect. It's so fitting. Much like what Yoda became, a more peaceful and discerning master, we also see that Obi-Wan found this at least by the time Maul found him. The sort of mercy he takes on Maul also struck a chord with me. That he pitied Maul for his pain and anger. And that he only fought because Maul gave him no choice. Very well done, very thoughtful and meaningful episode. Glad they did it the way they did.
     
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    100% agreed, and well stated. It was abrupt, and caught me off guard on first viewing - but it was meant to be, and was very effective. I love that the writers thought about the best type of fight, before just doing yet another drawn out sequence.
     
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    I loved this ending. Show how aggression on the dark siders could be used against them and thus a weakness. It also showed how Obi Wan when motivated was still a great duelist.
    Maul was a great character that I loved to hate. In his end I found myself feeling sorry for him in a way, and the dialog between him and Obi Wan was well written and it showed. It was sad and touching and just a great moment for the show and I enjoyed it.
    I'm sad the Rebels show is going to end, I have enjoyed this tale and think it was well written with interesting characters and has felt very much like a Star Wars show.
    I will be very interested what is next in line and hope it is done just as well.
     
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    What ever we get I hope it's not as childish as FoD.
     
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    Cool lego version.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Oh yes I love it.
     
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    Agreed, I hope someone online creates a gif of this.
     
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    The way they took down Maul has to be one of the lamest ways I have seen a character go in SW. So much character development just to have him die in such a stupid way in an incredibly lame fight.
     
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    You mean one of the ballsiest, most creative and story-relevant ways possible? Sure, they could have ended his story with a fight that had flips, kicks and lots of spectacle. Instead, they decided to take an artistic risk and show off that throughout the years Maul did not learn a thing. He's been consumed by rage for all his life and his lack of growth resulted in a devastating failure. In my opinion, if Filoni didn't care for Maul as much as he does, he would have chosen a more paint-by-numbers finale.
     
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    Preach!
     
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    Kenobi switching his stance to Qui-Gon's (signifying his growth) and Maul performing the same move he used to finish Qui-Gon (signifying how he's learned nothing) was a nice message on how far both characters had come since Episode 1.

    Somehow, Maul's inability to learn echoes the original script from their fight in Episode 1:

    "OBI-WAN: You don't bother to learn.

    MAUL: I don't have to.

    [Obi-Wan kills Maul]

    OBI-WAN: Learn not...live not, my master always says."
     
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    Sorry bro but I disagree. It doesn't bother me if you have a different opinion than mine but you have to use facts to disagree and what both series showed us goes against your words. Both the CW and Rebels did indeed show us how much Maul had learned and grown as a character in many ways both in power and in knowledge so I really fail to see how that escaped you. Not only that but the new canon comics showed us this as well. We are not talking here about what Burter says but what Lucasfilm and the canon comics say.

    When you look at all of those things together it is quite clear that Maul had more action and things to do that both increased his hate and power of the Dark Side and he was in more action scenarios that helped hone his skills than Obi Wan was. Filoni made Mauls trials and tribulations seen worthless and stupid and it made Savage Opress's death at the hands of Sidious seem like a work of art.
     
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    I am still not sure to what the death of Maul means for an Obi Wan standalone movie. It feels like a wasted opportunity to let Maul return to the silver screen but then again most people are probably not even aware he came back from the dead so...
     
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    The way Maul's death was portrayed made me think that they had no care about that character at all. If nothing more it made me think that they just wanted to get rid of a wonderful character created by Lucas in the lamest way possible. Rebels showed us just how much Maul had grown and he had become a powerful evil force that was to be feared and it made no sense why they got rid of him in such a lame way. Maul was the nemesis of Kenobi and he was the vile creature that blinded Kanan and wanted to corrupt Ezra. He showed us his power when he dealt with the inquisitors as well and even if I haven't read the new comics I still have heard that they show a Maul that had indeed grown as a character.
     
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    I thought that was one of the dumbest ways Filoni could have handled such an interesting character and it made Boba Fett's death seem glorious by comparison.
     
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