SPOILER Rebels Review S02 Premiere: "The Siege Of Lothal"

I agree. It's not suddenly going to turn into The Vader Show.

And yet, if all they do is send another saber-bait Inquisitor after them, it's basically just going to be the same thing we've already seen. The writers have to raise the stakes somehow. No "yes, and..." to the first season, no real drama.

And you know they're not going to just leave Vader's appearance in Siege at Lothal as a one-off cameo. The LFL marketing team would have eight conniptions before lunch if that were to happen. Vader will almost certainly be worked into the story - perhaps not as the main villain chasing the Ghost team, but he'll be in there somehow. There's obviously a showdown between him and Ahsoka in the offing, for one thing. For another, the Ghost crew is now in contact with the Rebellion which, though it's not yet grown to what it will be by the time of ANH, is clearly not going to be something that the Emperor is willing to ignore.

 

Not an A wing hater, but nothing beats an Xwing. Just sayin.

 

It's interesting that Ahsoka is only just learning now, 15 years after they parted ways, that Anakin survived and became Vader. It makes me wonder if Obi Won know's at this stage? At the end of ROTS, Obi Won left Anakin for dead. How does Obi-Won find out that Anakin was rescued and is now in the black suit? Maybe Ahsoka tells him. The mention of Kenobi in this episode gives us hope that we might see an appearance by him later in the season.

 

Ah. Forgot about that scene.

 

But I think the question was whether or not Obi-Wan knew of Anakin's surviving their dual on Mustafar. I think he probably does, but it's a really interesting idea that Ahsoka tells him. I agree that it would be neat to see him in Rebels again.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about Keonbi appearing. In the EU he was up to a lot between RotS and ANH and I was never keen. I like the idea that he was in exile and trying to stay low. In Leia's message she mentions her last notable tie to Kenobi being him fighting with her father in the Clone Wars, but I feel like if he'd helped the rebellion or been about, this would have been mentioned instead surely? Unless Leia didn't know of his involvement of course.

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I'm not sure how I feel about Keonbi appearing. In the EU he was up to a lot between RotS and ANH and I was never keen. I like the idea that he was in exile and trying to stay low. In Leia's message she mentions her last notable tie to Kenobi being him fighting with her father in the Clone Wars, but I feel like if he'd helped the rebellion or been about, this would have been mentioned instead surely? Unless Leia didn't know of his involvement of course.

 

Did Kenobi leave tatooine in the eu? What was the "lots" that he was up to?

I'd agree he shouldn't have any real presence in rebels.

 

While that is something neat to see, it'd be a bit weird to have an episode not related to the rest of the show. Rebels seems like more of a coherent story than clone wars. I can't see the creators doing it.

 

I think that's right. Filoni said the show would be more focused on our main cast, and not go all over the place like Clone Wars. That said, it would be neat to see not-yet-so-Old Ben. I wouldn't want too much, but it would be strangely fulfilling.

 

On Tatooine he had a few conflicts with sand people and I'm pretty sure Sharad Hett came into it? And off-world I'm pretty sure he did a few small independent missions; nothing relating to the rebellion as far as I'm aware, but even just going off world is too much for me!

I like the idea of a Yoda/Kenobi arc, but I agree that it would be tough to tie into the main plot unless you had a few of the characters crash on Tatooine or Dagobah and meet a "strange anonymous wizard" or something to that effect. An alternative could be a mini series or a standalone feature length episode or something?

 

I had no clue he left the planet. Thanks for the info/ I couldn't agree more.

I'd love to get more stuff on netflix. Maybe they could do 12 eps in the time period of rebels, not related to the main cast, and stick it up on netflix.

 

Went on Wookieepedia to double check my facts and here's an excerpt:

Over the next few months, Kenobi felt he was ready to train in the way of the Whills, but Jinn's spirit told him that he was not, and that he must realize it for himself why in order to begin. Roughly a year into his exile, Kenobi overheard spacers discussing events on Bellassa, where Ferus Olin, a former Padawanlearner Kenobi had thought dead, was on the run from Imperial forces. Jinn convinced Kenobi to track Olin, promising him that this quest would help Kenobi's mission to protect the baby. With the spirit of Jinn temporarily looking after one-year-old Luke, Kenobi went to Bellassa. On Bellassa he assumed the identity of Ronar Hanare, a business man charged with working on a pipeline outside the city of Ussa. This allowed him access to the spaceport of Ussa which was controlled by The Eleven while he searched for Olin. He eventually found Olin and helped him escape the ruthless InquisitorMalorum. Kenobi also discovered that Malorum was interested in the events of Polis Massa. Pursued by Boba Fett, Kenobi and Olin escaped from Bellassa to The Red Twins system.[181]

Once again, this is obviously old EU, but serves as an example of one of several occasions Kenobi left Tatooine during his exile in the old continuity.

 

I guess they are saving it but it would have been great if Ezra tried to pump a couple of stun bolts into Vader while he was lifting the walker of himself. I would love to see him deflect the bolts with his hand like in Empire. Plus it would have showed a cold blooded streak in Ezra shooting a guy when he is down.

 

It would have been a good scene maybe tickle his circuits

 

You want to see Ezra as a bad boy what he is not. Ezra would be justified to kill Vader in that position even if Vader was fallen down.
Let me ask, what did Luke do with his lightsaber when he defeated his father, in episode 6? He didn't attack the emperor as he originally intended to do. Instead, he threw away the lightsaber. How gentle! If it was not for Vader's own conversion to good some 30 min before his death, the story would end right there. Or, as Vader himself suggested, the story could lead to the conversion of Lea (or her children) into the Dark Side (that some say, happened with her son). One does not have to be gentle with the Dark side lords. One has to overcome them. Ezra has the right to use unseen before sides of the Force in order to do it.

The Rebels heroes are already in contact with senator Organa, so he could tell them of Obi Wan and Yoda. Ezra should meet Yoda or better teacher, (but such doesn't exist in Star Wars).

Yoda, Obi Wan, and the former Trade Federation allies, now Rebellion supporters, could be among the visited people and planets. New characters could join, as it happened in CW. At the same time, the central character of Rebels is undoubtedly Ezra and his advance into the Force. He already showed remarkable abilities to control sides of the Force not previously shown in any film. I suggest that will be developed further, together with Yoda may be, or by visiting more frequently ancient Jedi temples and talking of passed away masters. What is needed to Star Wars' development beyond the current level, is increased experience and knowledge of the Force, and heroes who can bear it in the 3D world.

The failure of the Jedi order was great: to lose 10,000 members, its entire structure and influence in the galaxy, and to let a next door standing personage Palpatine to grasp the power, plus Anakin's dramatic convertion to the dark side, while conceived with midichlorians to be the chosen one, Count Dooku's post-factum conversion to the Dark side (and at least one more Jedi general in CW - the guy with the 4 hands). That shows critical shortcomings of the Jedi teaching and its manifestation in the real 3D world. It must be compensated somehow.

From Rebels 2 we see a stronger than ever empire who blockades a planet for sending a radio transmission (just compare it to our own world what it could mean). And at the same time Ezra controlling unknown powers that knocked down the invincible Vader. That should be applauded and developed further.

 

So does anyone know where I can download an HD version of this yet? Those Google links last season were DA BOMB...

 

I've got one better watch this:https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=star+wars+the+rebels+season+2+episode+1 play the first clip that is 53m 49scs long, enjoy.