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SPOILER Rebels Season 3 Ep 20 & 21 "Zero Hour" (Paul's Review)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Hermann22, Mar 25, 2017.

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    The third season of Rebels is over and we go into "Zero Hour" knowing that there will be casualties. Why? Because the history of the last two season finales has given us major deaths and transformations. I didn't expect this one to be any different. Which Rebels and Imperials survive? Where do the Rebels end up in the finale to set up season 4?

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    SPOILERS BELOW!!!!! READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!!!!










    What worked for me:


    - The space battles
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    I've been beating the drum all season that the animation of the series has been VASTLY improved and it always stands out the most during the space battles. The ships seem to fly through space with more grace and look less stiff as they sometimes did in previous seasons. The space battle we are given really does come off cinematically, which is hard to do in a 22 minute cartoon (part 1 is the space battle, FYI).


    - Thrawn and his master plan(s) 4.jpg
    We get a full dose of Thrawn in these finale episodes and it's all for the better. Thrawn has been built up all season as this masterful tactician that we have occasionally seen, but we really get to see him in full force here. If it wasn't for the Bendu (more on that later), Thrawn would have destroyed the Rebels easily. There is a part where Captain Constantine goes against Thrawn's orders and essentially gives the Rebels the chance they need to receive more help. If not for that, Thrawn would have won the day. Good news for him though is that he survives and we can expect him raising hell on the Rebels in season 4.


    - Bendu raining hell on EVERYONE!
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    In a quick attempt to get Bendu's help, Kanan calls Bendu a coward and...that didn't go over too well. Bendu loses his S*%^ and unleashes a massive storm on the Imperials AND the Rebels so they will leave the planet. It was an interesting move to have Bendu NOT aide the Rebels solely, but instead just try and destroy EVERYONE. He truly sticks to being the "one in the middle." It was cool to see how mystical/powerful he really is too.


    - The ground battle
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    As impressive as the space battle was, the ground battle was equally impressive. The show did a great job of showing how outnumbered the Rebels truly are against the mighty Empire. Seeing all the Walkers in action, swarming the Rebel base, was quite a sight to behold. Again, it came off cinematically in a way that I never thought Rebels could pull off before.


    What didn't work for me:

    - Bendu's defeat?
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    One of the few missteps the finale makes is Thrawn defeating Bendu...kind of. Bendu becomes a storm/cloud in the sky and yells at everyone to leave. Thrawn opens fire on said cloud and Bendu falls to the ground, only to disappear after telling Thrawn of his eventual end. I realize that the writers wanted to have Bendu foreshadow Thrawn's demise, but the action of shooting a cloud was ridiculous and I think it could have been handled a lot better in a different way.


    Quick hitters:

    - Commander Sato doesn't make it out. Bummer.
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    - KALLUS MAKES IT OUT ALIVE!!!! THE FORCE BE PRAISED!!!!
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    - Death Troopers are in this episode and they don't really do much, but look cool. 10.jpg



    - Need a toy of it. 12.jpg


    I have to admit...of all the Rebels season finales...this is my least favorite. Now, it doesn't mean I didn't like it; these episodes had tons of action and great stakes, but the other two were more exciting to me. The season ends on the Rebels headed to Yavin 4 and seems like we are truly headed to Rogue One territory. I can't wait to see what this means for our merry band of Rebels.

    A special thank you to everyone reading the reviews and saying nice things to me during the season. I really do appreciate you all taking the time in doing so! :)

    Paul

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    Discussion post for those who saw the episode. Spoiler tags mandatory.


    First impressions:

    On one hand, I know Rebels cannot be completely destroyed. On the other, Thrawn has to have a victory. So I liked that they escaped because of the two elements that have nothing to do with them: Konstantine's stupidity, which made me mad for Thrawn, lol, and Bendu. Do not make 'the one in the middle' mad.

    I wanted more on-screen casualties, besides numerous pilots. II just saw Sato's sacrifice coming - it was totally Rogue One's hammerhead scenario. Maybe Raddus got his idea from Sato.

    I liked that all the Rebels played their part, including Zeb and Rex. Kanan, who was sidelined in the last few episodes, got something of his old spark back in this episode. Hera is showing more and more characteristics of a true leader. Even Ezra showed incredible maturity - I liked his scene with Kanan.

    I am SO HAPPY that Kallus lived. His fight with Thrawn and him laughing at the Chiss were great. Once Pryce told the troopers to execute him, I knew he will live. Him joining the Rebellion opens the door for Cassian next (or fifth) season.

    And Thrawn lives for another season!

    They are going to Yavin! It makes sense, judging by the look of the base in RO and ANH. Their defeat and Bail Organa's words via Mothma are in line with the state of Rebellion prior to RO and Scarif - instead of all out assaults, sabotages and surgical, small attacks.

    I'll write more when I think about it and see it again.

    Once again - USE SPOILER TAGS because of those who didn't see it yet. Thank you.
     
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    I enjoyed the finale too.

    After Thrawn brought him on the ship to attack the rebel base, I knew Kallus was going to survive. The involvement of the Bendu was interesting too. It seems to suggest (to me at least) that there is no middle in the conflict between the good and evil. I am sorry that Sato died, but someone had to. Otherwise it would not have been a loss to the Rebellion. However, we are getting awfully close to Rogue One and I think that Season 4 will therefore be the last one.
     
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    I enjoyed it. It doesn't come close to episodes like Twilight of the Apprentice, but it's definitely a worthy conclusion to the season.

    The battle sequences were done really well, it felt like a big and important confrontation. I liked that the rebels lost a lot of troopers and ships. That gave the episode an emotional impact. Sato's sacrifice was the highlight.
    The Kallus storyline was very compelling, I'm happy he made it out alive. He has really grown on me.
    What they did with the Bendu was interesting. It's someting we haven't seen before.

    I'm a little bummed that the Death Troopers were given nothing interesting to do. They didn't even "talk". They were written like regular Stormtroopers and unfortunately felt shoehorned in.
     
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    One more thing:

    The space battle was awesome, as I came to expect in the second half of this season.
     
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    A really awesome episode, incredible 40+ mins of action.
     
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    Sadly lacked any emotional resonance. The pieces on the board moved, but in the end nothing really changed outside of perhaps
    Phoenix squadron merging into the main Rebel fleet at the end. Also Konstantine's decision to go against Thrawn's orders due to glory made little sense as there was very little hint he was feeling jealous of Thrawn all season.



    And lastly: It is WAY TOO EASY to bring down the ships in either fleet.
     
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    I AM THE BENDU! I BRING DEATH!
     
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    I was hoping Bendu would complete Kanan's training, but that seems unlikely now.
     
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    Yes. It's like none of them had any shields at all. Kinda weird.

    I did appreciate the the inclusion of the concept of using multiple hyperspace jumps to cover your tracks. This is used several times in "Legends" novels.
     
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    I liked that Bendu
    did a version of Ben Kenobi - he disappears and you hear him laughing after Thrawn's shot - indicating that the Jedi aren't the only ones who know how to retain their beings in the Cosmic Force. Or, maybe, he is already more powerful than we can imagine and simply transported himself elsewhere, we saw him disappear from the sight before. But, the first scenario is more likely. I wonder if 'those in between' have Force ghosts.
     
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    That was a brilliant episode made in a way that somewhat recognises that some S4 news is just around the corner at Celebration. Honestly, though I know it's a two-part episode, I think it could have been paced better if extended to an hour in length, as I feel the last 15/20 minutes was perhaps a bit faster than the rest of the finale, and that is my only - albeit minor - complaint about this episode; the last three episodes of S3 have knocked it out of the park, in my opinion, on a level of animation and storytelling that we haven't witnessed in the animated space of SW since some of the later seasons of TCW.

    Not so much a spoiler (but someone please point it out to me if it should be considered as such), but Kanan and Ezra's discussion at the start of Pt1 drew heavy parallels to Anakin and Obi-Wan's discussion in ROTS before Kenobi leaves for Utapau (both masters conceding to their pupil that they feel there is nothing left that they can teach them, and Ezra's answer to Kanan was a great moment for his character development).
     
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    i haven't been overly thrilled with how little thrawn has done this season, but this episode at least made me extremely happy. mainly because this, for the most part, was the thrawn i've been waiting for. completely in control and executing a battle plan like an exquisite dance. my only question is him leading the ground assault personally as the old thrawn would never do such a thing. but anyway, the action was top notch and thrilling. i hope that they can continue this pace into next season now that the galactic civil war is truly on.
     
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    Fangirl moment (forgive me :D ): When Hera
    called Kanan 'love'.
     
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    Put a smile on many faces, no doubt. Finally brings those fans up to speed who were in denial about their relationship with one another and hadn't yet read A New Dawn
     
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    Yeah, I caught that too.

    The more I think about it, the more I think being on Disney XD really inhibited some of the storytelling elements that the episode needed. I didn't hate the episode, it just felt lacking.
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    The only thing I can think is that a huge space battle was condensed into about 5 minutes, so its not happening in real time.
     
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    Because there will be a fourth season of Rebels, Thrawn could not have a complete win (destroying the Rebellion in its entirety). However, he must be seen as the most formidable foe of the Rebels. Failure therefore has to be blamed on others that either go against Thrawn's orders (Constantine) or have to make decisions while Thrawn is somewhere else (Price). Having Thrawn on the planet allows the Rebels to escape and the Bendu to predict Thrawn's demise.
     
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    He started to remind me of the force creatures from Mortis. They could take animal forms.

    It would be great if Kanan was right and the Bendu was a coward and he had been holding on to his body instead of becoming one with the force like all the other Bendu. In next season he starts talking to Kanan thanks him and starts teaching him.
     
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    I think overall this season has been a bit of a failure. After the weak departure of Maul last week, I feel we have had too many repeat battles
    and close escape episodes, with lots of filler in between. Overall, with the exception of Sabine, the main characters have not really progressed a
    great deal.

    On the forum yesterday I predicted Sato, Yavin 4 and Kallus going to the Rebellion. I am a bit disappointed that there were no real surprises and that's what we got. We all knew what was coming with Kallus. Sato isn't, in my opinion, developed anywhere near enough to the extent that I am going to care about his death, same for Konstantine.

    The Bendu going? What a waste. He's barely done anything....albeit I don't think he is dead.

    Plus, I thought the Rebels were supposed to suffer a major defeat? Granted they lose a few ships and had to move to another base, but all the main rebels once again escaped and they really didn't lose that much in terms of ships and strength. So it wasn't really a major Thrawn victory. It was more like a barely won battle. Plus, to be blunt, how many episodes this year have been space battles with Imperials? Every other episode seems to have one, which usually takes up most of an episode, so it's becoming old hat.

    Shame. A lot of this season seems a wasted opportunity to me. Last year's finale was such a ride and set up so much that this episode, and indeed the whole season, just feels like an anti-climax and therefore is frankly a disappointment. Given the claim the other day that the fourth season is the last, hopefully they're saving the big stuff for next year and we get no more filler or repetitious content.

    But then, as I always say, if the kids like it, that probably matters more than my opinion.
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    It was a sweet moment, and having not read the books it was probably the biggest surprise of the episode for me.
     
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