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GAME Redesign Star Wars Battlefront

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Video/Tabletop Games' started by cawatrooper, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. cawatrooper

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    So, in my opinion, the recent Battlefront games have been lacking. This is most assuredly EA's fault, to be sure... but it also probably stems from some fan expectation, as well. It's far to easy to say "they didn't add my favorite character/battle/vehicle" etc.

    Don't get me wrong, Battlefront can do better. But I think while we need to hold the creators accountable, we also need to have realistic expectations.

    To do that, let's say you get 125 pts to spend on your game modes, heroes, and maps. What do you choose?


    Game Modes (Can be applied to offline or online play- if you want both, must spend points for both)
    2 pt.
    Blast
    Cargo
    Drop Zone
    Droid Run
    Hero Hunt
    Sabotage
    Supremacy
    Turning Point
    Jetpack Cargo
    Ewok Hunt


    3 pts.
    Fighter Squadron
    Strike
    Heroes vs Villains
    Hero Showdown
    Extraction
    Survival
    Ewok Hunt
    Capture the Flag

    5 pts.
    Walker Assault
    Battlestation
    Infiltration
    Conquest (capturing command posts in large scale battles)

    8 pts.
    Starfighter Assault
    Galactic Assault
    Story Campaign
    Galactic Conquest mode


    15 pts.
    Ground to space battles (more fleshed out version than Elite Squadron had)

    Heroes

    1 pt.
    Luke Skywalker
    Leia Organa
    Han Solo
    Chewbacca
    Darth Vader
    The Emperor
    Boba Fett
    Iden Versio


    2 pts.
    Nien Nub
    Lando Calrissian
    Jyn Erso
    Anakin Skywalker
    Obi Wan Kenobi
    Finn
    Rey
    Yoda
    Dengar
    Bossk
    Greedo
    Krennic
    Captain Phasma
    Count Dooku
    Darth Maul
    General Greivous
    Kylo Ren

    3 pts.
    Admiral Ackbar
    Ki-Adi Mundi
    Mace Windu
    Aayla Secura
    Kit Fisto
    Assaj Ventress
    IG-88

    4 pts.
    Quinlan Vos
    Qui Gon Jinn
    Plo Koon
    Ahsoka Tano
    Captain Rex
    L337
    Qi'ra
    Poe Dameron
    Admiral Holdo
    Enfys Nest
    Any of the main Rogue One Crew other than Jyn
    Any member of the Ghost Crew
    Thrawn
    Cad Bane
    Embo
    Dryden Vos
    Savage Opress
    The Grand Inquisitor
    DJ
    Admiral Hux
    Snoke

    10 pts.
    Any other Star Wars character


    Battles
    (Spend an additional 40 pts if you want locations to not be locked to a specific era. Otherwise, if you want a specific battle to take place in a different era, spend an additional 3 pts on that battle.)

    4 pt.
    Geonosis (Clone Wars)
    Mustafar (Clone Wars)
    Felucia (Clone Wars)
    Camino (Clone Wars)
    Naboo (Clone Wars)
    Kamino (Clone Wars)
    Tatooine (Galactic Civil War)
    Hoth (Galactic Civil War)
    Bespin (Galactic Civil War)
    Endor (Galactic Civil War)
    Yavin IV (Galactic Civil War)
    Death Star (Galactic Civil War)
    Crait (Sequel Trilogy)
    D'qar (Sequel Trilogy)
    Jakku (Sequel Trilogy)
    Takodana (Sequel Trilogy)


    6 pts.
    Boz Pity (Clone Wars)
    Korriban (Clone Wars)
    Utapau (Clone Wars)
    Coruscant (Clone Wars)
    Felucia (Clone Wars)
    Cato Nemoidia (Clone Wars)
    Mygeeto (Clone Wars)
    Dantooine (Clone Wars)
    Ryloth (Clone Wars)
    Dathomir (Clone Wars)
    Saleucami (Clone Wars)
    Kessel (Galactic Civil War)
    Polis Massa (Galactic Civil War)
    Dagobah (Galactic Civil War)
    Ord Mantell (Galactic Civil War)
    Tantive IV (Galactic Civil War)
    Fondor (Galactic Civil War)
    Sullust (Galactic Civil War)
    Alderaan (Galactic Civil War)
    Scarif (Galactic Civil War)
    Vjun (Galactic Civil War)
    Unknown Regions (Sequel Trilogy)

    8 pts.
    Christophsis (Clone Wars)
    Manadlore (Clone Wars)
    Umbara (Clone Wars)
    Rodia (Clone Wars)
    Nar'Shadda (Clone Wars)
    Lothal (Galactic Civil War)
    Attolon (Galactic Civil War)
    Mimban (Galactic Civil war)
    Jedha (Galactic Civil War)
    Canto Bight (Sequel Trilogy)
    Ach'to (Sequel Trilogy)

    15 pts.
    Any other Star Wars character










    What would YOUR game be?
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    Personally, and I know this isn't quire realistic, but I'd want a game focused on offline content. It would look more like this:
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 19, 2018 ---
    Game Modes
    Ground to Space (offline) 15
    Conquest (Offline) 5
    Galactic Conquest (offline) 8
    Blast (Online) 2
    Fighter Squadron (Online ) 3
    TOTAL: 33

    Heroes
    Luke Skywalker 1
    Leia Organa 1
    Han Solo 1
    Chewbacca 1
    Darth Vader 1
    The Emperor 1
    Boba Fett 1
    Lando Calrissian 2
    Jyn Erso 2
    Anakin Skywalker 2
    Obi Wan Kenobi 2
    Finn 2
    Rey 2
    Yoda 2
    Dengar 2
    Bossk 2
    Krennic 2
    Captain Phasma 2
    Count Dooku 2
    Darth Maul 2
    General Greivous 2
    Kylo Ren 2
    Mace Windu 3
    Aayla Secura 3
    Kit Fisto 3
    Assaj Ventress 3
    IG-88 3
    Qui Gon 4
    Ahsoka 4
    Rex 4
    Poe 4
    Enfys Nest 4
    Cad Bane 4
    Thrawn 4
    Grand Inquisitor 4
    Snoke 4
    TOTAL 85


    Maps
    Crait 4
    D'Qar 4
    Scarif 6
    Boz Pity 6
    Mandalore 8
    Chrystophsis 8
    Canto Bight 8
    Mimban 8
    Lothal 8
    Ord Mantell 6
    Total 66





    WOW. So I'm way over right now (at 184 by my calculations).

    I know this is hardly scientific, but it was definitely interesting to see what I really prioritized. I'll try to get down to 125 eventually, and most certainly will have to hack away at those heroes. And even then, I don't have a wealth of maps available, especially spread across three eras.

    Also, I really wanted more variety with the maps. Tatooine, Hoth, Endor... they're obviously all great, but they're also very overdone. We don't need them in every Battlefront, do we?
     
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    Game Modes
    Blast
    Heroes vs Villains
    Conquest
    Starfighter Assault
    Galactic Assault
    Story
    Galactic Conquest
    Ground to Space
    Total: 57

    Heroes

    Luke
    Leia
    Han
    Chewie
    Darth Vader
    Emperor
    Boba
    Lando
    Anakin
    Obi Wan
    Dengar
    Bossk
    Greedo
    Maul
    Dooku
    Gerivous
    Kylo
    Rey
    Mace
    Assaj
    IG-88
    Qui-Gon
    Ahsoka
    Rex
    Thrawn
    Total: 55

    Maps

    Geonosis
    Felucia
    Naboo
    Hoth
    Endor
    Death Star
    Crait
    utapau
    Ryloth
    Scrif
    Mandalore
    Total: 54

    Grand Total: 166 points
     
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    Okay, got down to exactly 125 if I counted correctly. Interesting exercise to see what I would want to prioritize.


    - Reduced game modes even further. Honestly, if we had one big game mode that incorporated objective based gameplay and large scale battles, I'd be more than happy. Even Conquest in the original original Battlefront (2004) was more than enough for me to get hundreds of hours out of it.


    - I completely dropped the sequel trilogy. It's cool, but we have so much more stuff to go on right now with the other two eras that it felt weird prioritizing it right now. Maybe in a few years it should get its own Battlefront.


    -Reduced my original hero count by quite a bit. I'd absolutely love to have a ton of heroes to choose from, but in the end I realized I'd much rather have variety in maps.

    Interesting how different our tastes seem to be, @HuskyRunner. If you had to get down to 125, what category between heroes/modes/maps would take the hardest hit?




    Game Modes

    Ground to Space (offline) 15
    Galactic Conquest (offline) 8
    TOTAL: 23

    Heroes
    Luke Skywalker 1
    Leia Organa 1
    Han Solo 1
    Darth Vader 1
    Boba Fett 1
    Lando Calrissian 2
    Jyn Erso 2
    Anakin Skywalker 2
    Obi Wan Kenobi 2
    Yoda 2
    Bossk 2
    Count Dooku 2
    Darth Maul 2
    General Greivous 2
    Mace Windu 3
    IG-88 3
    Qui Gon 4
    Ahsoka 4
    Cad Bane 4
    The Grand Inquisitor
    TOTAL 43


    Maps
    Scarif 6
    Boz Pity 6
    Mandalore 8
    Chrystophsis 8
    Canto Bight 8
    Mimban 8
    Lothal 8
    Ord Mantell 6
    Total 58
     
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    I would cut Assaj and Greedo from Heroes
    I would cut Blast, Heroes v. Villains, and Conquest form modes
    I would cut Scarif, Mandalore, Crait, Utapau, and Naboo from maps.

    I think that gets me to 125
     
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    Oh wow, so maps take a pretty big hit then.

    Interesting!
     
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    I mean I would want to have as many maps as possible, but I like hero variety as well. It would be really interesting if you factored in various class options and customization into the point totals.
     
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    For sure, this is a pretty broad view as is. Just didn't want to over complicate things.
     
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    Oh yes. If you start diving into the little customization options this could definitely get out of hand quickly.
     
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