Retitle Episode II

Star Wars Episode II: Little Orphan Ani

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 7, 2017, Original Post Date: Feb 7, 2017 ---

Star Wars Episode II: DJ Dooku's Jedi Dance Party!

Star Wars Episode II: Ani gets some

 

Episode 2 Lets do the Jedi/Droid Dance.

 

A lot of people have said that "Attack of the Clones" sounds like a cheesy B-movie, and there have been various discussions about other possible titles for Episode II. I've been thinking about this and trying to decide what I would've called Episode II.

The PT and OT parallel each other in many ways, including the titles:
1: Hint of an emergence of a new power in the galaxy
2: Counterstrike
3: Triumph of the power from (1)

So the title for Episode II has to both indicate a counterstrike and introduce the clone wars. That's when it occurred to me that I know what the perfect title is for Episode II:


Attack of the Clones

I realize now that I couldn't think of a better title, because we had the right title all along.

 

I've always loved the title. It "sounds like a cheesy B-movie"... um, hello, Flash Gordon was one of the inspirations behind Star Wars.

I think it's a great title--it captures the fun, absurdity, and fantasy of Star Wars.

 

I didn't think much of the title when I first heard about it, years ago. But in context to what the plot turned out to be, I find it rather ironic and interesting. Especially since those using the Clone Army as aggressors were the good guys.

 

I'm gonna go ahead and 2nd what duckface said ...

Through the years as well as back when we first learned the title, I've always felt that what we were told was the Story, name and all.
As I've iterated elsewhere on these boards & threads, to me, it's not my story for me to say what it's called nor how it should play out.

Love It As It Is.

All Of It. ... even before we had it ... ...yeah... ....then too ... ...

 

...but the clones don't attack.

 

The Path to War.

 

Clones vs Droids.

 

I'm a frenchie, I can be mistaken.
But, if the clones really were attacking, were leading the attack on their own, shouldn't the correct title be "The Clones's Attack", that truly means "the attack made by the clones" ?

As says Yoda : "minsunderstood could have been the title"...
This title does not mean "the clones are attacking".
The attack is not made by the clones. The attack is made by someone else (we all know he is Sidious). And this someone else uses clones to perpetrate his attack. The clones are his tool. That is the first sense of this title.
There is another sense, more subtle. When the clones start the war, it is apparently to save the Republic. We will all learn in episode 3 the dice were rigged from the beginning, with that Order 66 in a corner of their mind. In fact the clones won't save the Republic, per contra, they will help to destroy it and make the Empire raise. According to this, the title does not mean "the clones are attacking", it means that the fact that the clones go to war is the beggining of the fall of the Republic.
In reality, the obvious meaning of the title ("the clones are launching an attack") is the exact opposite of the deep (actual) meaning ("what the clones are doing is in fact an attack against the republic even if you all believe they will save it").

(well, it's difficult to me to explain this in english - it's very clear in my head, but in french )

 

Yash, agreed.
Speaking of making changes.. I think I might have fixed the Prequel Trilogy, but can't verify until I've had feedback from fans.
I was inspired to muck about with the movies after Lucas said it's time to give SW to the fans.. so.. as a manic out of job editor I kinda dabbled around and..
...I think I might have fixed the Prequel Trilogy, but can't verify until I've had feedback from fans.
This is the reason why I'm here, to share, I want all Star Wars fans to see what I've stumbled on. Mark my words, the prequel trilogy rules.

I've tried uploading them to YouTube but have been shot down every time. So.. anybody care ?
Any ideas on how to "get them out there" ?

 

Both are correct and have the same meaning if they're used in the same circumstances. Both can mean "the attack made by the clones" or "the attack received by the clones". It's all about context. And regardless of who ordered the attack, if the clones are the ones performing it...well, they're the ones who are attacking.

This is a great idea, I never thought of the title like that. The clones are attacking the Jedi....nice! But there's still a problem with that, they're attacking in another movie. And there's no way they used the title of a movie as foreshadowing for an event that takes place in the next installment. I think it's just a coincidence (even though it's pretty awesome).

 

Try to explain better my idea...
"The attack of the clones"
1. obvious meaning: The attack we speak about is the one made by the clones. And actually the clones go to war by the end of the movie. So all easily tie in: "the attack of the clones" is the fact that the clones go to war - yes, I know, it is right by the end, but they actually go.
2. subtle meaning: The attack we speak about is the attack against the Republic planned by Darth Sidious. It's even greater: it's the Attack planned since one thousand years by the Sith Order against the Jedi Order. It's the attack the SW tale is all about, also known as the Great Plan.
You get it? Well, this attack is planned in two times: 1. rattle the Republic, 2. destroy the Jedi, a.k.a 1. "Attack of the Clones" (which starts the war that will crack and burst the Republic) and 2. "Revenge of the sith" (with the turning of one of the most eminent Jedi members, Anakin Skywalker, resulting in making the whole Jedi order outlaw).
I mean The Attack the movie speaks about is the Sidious attack against the Republic, and globally the attack by the Sith against the Jedi, and it is the first move of this attack : use the Clones as tools to start a war. It's the "Attack (of the Republic with the help) of the Clones".


I have the same thought of duality with the title of episode 1 : "The Phantom Menace"
Which menace are we talking about?
1. obviously, the Naboo blockade is the first sign of an agression against the Republic. The menace stands for that treat to the peace of the Galaxy and the economic balance.
2. well, the menace is also the fact of that little boy, found on a remote desert planet - a little slave, he's no one nor nothing - but that boy will destroy the Jedi Order. And if we think greater - like above with episode 2, in terms of the whole Jedi/Sith antagonism - the menace concerns the Jedi and the Sith, and that fact that for the first time since one thousand years, the Sith reveal themselves to the Jedi, because the time for revenge has come.
The "phantom menace" is not only the agression against the Republic and the peace (meaning 1). It also threatens the whole Jedi.


The duality then spectacularly goes all over the 3 titles of the Prequel Trilogy :
1. obvious meanings:
- the phantom menace, yes, obvious, the movie deals with a menace against the peace
- attack of the clones, yes, of course, the clones go to war in the end
- revenge if the sith, yes, absolutely, Sidious is clearly the winner by the end of episode 3
2. thinking greater, in terms of the whole Sith goal, the Great Plan:
- we instaure a disorder and a treat by revealing ourself to the Jedi,
- we start a war to rattle the Republic, this is our first attack against it, we use an army of clones to do that
- we sweep the jedi order and get our revenge. The Great Plan is done.


As it, the PT perfectly mirrors the OT:
- phantom menace / new hope
- attack / strikes back
- Sith revenge / Jedi return

 

The Phantomenace
Attack Clones
Sith Happens

You're welcome.

 

The countdown to war.

 

As a title, one of the greatest lines of this movie: Always two, they are.

 

The Forgotten Army.