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Rewatching Attack of the Clones after 9 years

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Skaro, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. DaceDiath

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    AotC gets better over time. It's better than ESB in my opinion. It might be the most complex SW film overall. But it's a lot to absorb and it takes time to sink in. A brilliant film.
     
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    There was indeed a LOT to absorb in the movie. With retrospection, the Prequels could have been 4 movies.
    The Phantom Menace could have been done as a prologue, then 3 movies to cover Anakin's rise and fall...
    AOTC tries to be Barry Lyndon in a 2 hours movie...

    There shoud have been:

    1 movie covering the Good Anakin, becoming hero of the republic, Obi Wan's attempt as a master, him falling in love with Padme.
    1 movie covering how Anakin got corrupted, the rise of the Emperor.
    The last one, Anakin's betrayal, the fall of the Jedi and the ultimate confrontation between Anakin and Obi Wan.
     
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    Had Lucas not felt the need to start Anakin off as a small child, I suspect that we'd have seen a progression a lot closer to this. Having to start from square one with a new actor and a new version of the character in Episode II tended to get in the way of that.

    For all of Lucas' talk about "rhyming" the PT and the OT, it seems like the most basic way of pulling that off would have been to have had Anakin's journey mirror his son's, and that would have meant that he'd have made his initial turn to the dark side toward the end of Episode II (much like Luke rejected the dark side for the first time toward the end of ESB) and then Episode III would have centered around whether or not he would change his mind, mirroring the uncertainty in ROTJ as to whether Luke would remain true to his own choice that he made on Cloud City.
     
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    I agree, loved the jedi battle with the droids even though they eventually lost.
    [​IMG]
     
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    This is the only movie that I walked out of completely depressed. Yoda being the cherry-on-top. Everything about my mind wanted me to like it too - I remember saying to myself how cool Yoda was in that scene. But....I could not convince myself to like it.
     
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    "AOTC better than TESB":

    c3po madness.gif

    Not judging here, just saying!
     
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    i have maintained for a long time, when discussing prequels... Attack of the Clones holds up best under analysis and Discussion, but is perhaps not the best to watch of the three.

    I feel personally it is the most boring too watch, but it is the one that is best structured as a movie and had the most inherent potential.

    and that the plot twist about the clone being the precursor too the stormtroopers was a brilliant decision, and was revealed brilliantly in the film... it had a quiet build up, where you realized what was happening and what they were, before that reveal of the army with that music...

    that was masterfull...

    probably because it was all made in a computer, and George couldnt be there to tell everyone to make it awful as effectively as he could with other scenes.
     
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    IF you have problems with the romance/dialogue in the film but are able to look past it, AOTC really is a fun film to watch. I personally don't have issues with the romance.. it's a hit or a miss depending who's watching it. I think the story is extremely compelling, if not the most complex story of all 7 films thus far. It mirrors ESB interestingly, but it's just tonally and visually very different from that film. I don't think 10 minutes of questionable dialogue should ruin an entire film for anyone, but that's just my opinion. I grew up when the prequels were released so there's a lot of sentimental value that I attach to the films (similarly to how older fans have sentimental value for the originals). I viewed the originals before the prequels, but I feel somewhat lucky that I was able to watch ALL 6 films as an innocent child who loved every second of it. Just my two cents!
     
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    Couldn't agree more. I have constructed a fan edit that tries to go by the flow of the screenplay as printed in the "Art of" book. Granted there are scenes that were never filmed, but, surprisingly, the edit is tight and really awesome...at times illuminating.
     
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    AOTC and ROTS are the only ones that i dont rewatch anymore, wont spend my time anynore in something that I cant enjoy. Last time that I watched was to introduce the PT to my wife, her reaction: "Anakin is so anoying, always complaining and crying...such a baby", my sister had the same reaction years before. At least they really enjoyed TPM: "Ani is so cute and Jar Jar hilarious"....hahahah
     
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    I have never had a problem with AOTC. In fact, this movie, along with TESB, are my top two favorite STAR WARS movies. Does AOTC have flaws? Yes. Do the other six STAR WARS movies have flaws? Definitely. I have yet to see a flawless movie in my lifetime.
     
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    ESB and ANH are perfects. ROTJ and TFA were almost there, great entertaining movies at least. The great flaws are priority of the PT.
     
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    It's been a while since I've been on this thread, but while I still stand by what I said, I also want to emphasize EDITING. See, I enjoyed Suicide Squad and BvS, especially BvS: Ultimate Edition, as I saw what a complex and very solid movie it could be. Like the prequels, flawed, but yes, not bad. The prequels had solid editing, like all the movies so far, so I now imagine what it would have been if there was another hour of film made, like Suicide Squad with Jared Leto's Joker. From what I can tell, that is an extreme, but what if AoTC had this issue? Mixed reactions become negative if you can't stick to a single script, so I applaud Star Wars films for not making that mistake. But with even better editing, how much better could this movie have been? That is what I ask now.
     
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    "SUICIDE SQUAD" was a little over two hours long. "SUICIDE SQUAD" was not supposed to be about the Joker. He wasn't even the main antagonist. In fact, his appearance in the movie was all about one of the main characters - Harley Quinn. To have more of Leto's Joker in the movie would not have made sense to me.

    "ATTACK OF THE CLONES" was already two hours and twenty minutes long. As far as I know, it is the longest STAR WARS movie ever made. I've seen some of the scenes that had been deleted from the film. They really weren't needed. I'm not saying that the movie did not have its flaws. But to add more to the movie struck me as unnecessary.


    Movies that stick to a single script from the beginning to the end of production is very rare.
     
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    Some of the deleted scenes did need to be added, while others removed. The conveyor belt is a prime example of an unnecessary scene, whereas Padme's Parent's House and Padme's Bedroom should have been kept despite disrupting pacing, as they revealed some things that Anakin and Padme have in common. It would have shown a legitimate bonding scene.
     
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    It was a great idea. Yeah. Like you said, the pacing would have been disrupted.
     
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    Why not? He was heavily marketed. Many believed he was going to be the main antagonist.
    I strongly suggest you to watch Batman: Assault on Arkham, which is the real Suicide Squad (infinite times better than the movie), where the Joker IS the main antagonist.
     
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    Sure... ...and
    [​IMG] :p
    There are many problems with those films, both special edition and theatrical. You have been blinded by nostalgia! :eek: :oops: :p
     
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    Wich problems?
     
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    Dialogue is sometimes over the top and ridiculous, pacing is off in some scenes etc. They are the best out of the bunch for sure, but are by no means perfect :).
     
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