Rewatching Revenge of the Sith

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Very well put.

 

I always wondered this too but they would have been seen as criminals as the Emperor had already declaired the Jedi enemies of the Republic... er... Empire.

 

I mean immediately following Yoda falling. Prior to that scene Palpatine had gone to the senate and made a big cry baby story about the Jedi assaulting him in his office and leaving him scarred. RIght then they were delaired enemies of the Empire.

 

Yup

 

It's funny because a couple of weeks back me and my close friend re-watched ROS as well and felt EXACTLY the same way. All the glue that held that film together is slowly fading away with time. Just a bad movie.

A few noteworthy scenes though:

- Anakin storming into the Jedi temple before killing the kids, quite emotional.
- Anakin/Padme silent scene before he dispatches Mace.
- The exchange between Obi-Wan/Anakin after their final duel, loved it.

 

The opening crawl pan down to epic space battle over curoscant is crazy delicious. Its the second best space battle scene in all six movies until...wait for it, buzz droids. toilet.

Greivous is an excellent bad guy and if I cant have a trilogy of Maul, getting greivous in the final movie is an excellent move until, wait for it, I can't actually fight with four arms, i'm just gonna go ahead and spin these two. toilet.

There are tons of excellent choices made that get marred by being followed up with bad ones.

 

You know what I hate about RotS? The novelization made it clear how close Obi-wan and Anakin are and that they are heroes that people across the Galaxy know. The movie made it feel like they were coworkers.

 

The worst offense, in my opinion, is Padme dying because she has nothing to live for. Not sick, not injured...Just lost the will to live. If people died from losing the will to live...then we would have zero suicides. Nothing to live for, Padme? Well there's these two babies you just had, that you love and just named. You don't want to raise and love your kids anymore because your husband is now bad? Padme should have lived, and taken Leia to Alderan with Bail. Obi-wan still takes Luke to Tatooine. That way it makes sense when Luke has no memory of his mother and Leia does, in RotJ.

I agree with Tagge. Obi-wan and Yoda could have both gotten into Palp's office and taken him together...but they still would have lost. But a few of the blunders of RotS and the PT in general. Just a few tweeks and this movie could have been at least good, if not great.

 

@ekg Actually, I'm sorry to say it but there isn't a single space battle I enjoyed from the NT.
Sincerely, I"m not bashing the movies. They all looked like CG cutouts from a video game and
the shots were often very confusing!

The only space scene I like is Jango in pursuit of Obi-Wan.

@Cole I haven't thought about this as much but holy crap that's a valid point! LoL
It would have made so much sense if Obi-Wan took away Luke and Leia was raised by Padme, so
the ROTJ conversation the siblings would have about "remembering their parents" would make
more sense!!

 

Yeah Padme could have died later, so Leia could remember her, but raised mostly by the Organas.

 

That's totally fair.

 

Now that I'm thinking about it, Darth Vader... the main villain was actually a badass pilot. How come none of the new villains (aside from Jango) went at it with Jedi in space? Wouldn't it be cool to have scene where Darth Maul schools Qui-Gon in one on one dogfight?

 

It is strange how little Dogfighting there is in a trilogy of movies about someone who is the greatest starpilot in the galaxy.

 

Haha, that's true. I hope they think about how to portray dogfights in the new trilogy and focus on real lighted miniature props rather than CG because no matter how advanced the tech. gets the eye can always tell fake visuals apart.

 

Fallon, I sure wish I didn't agree with you so much on this. (Hell, I'm sure YOU wish you didn't agree with you so much on this, for that matter.)

It's no secret that I'm not a huge PT fan. I have never wanted to like something so much in my life, yet found it so flippin' difficult to do so. ROTS was by far the most watchable of the three for me, and there are some moments that I think were very well done.

The "opera scene" is my favorite bit in the entire PT too. For one thing, Ian just does a tremendous job of selling it, the way he savors every syllable like he's sipping a particularly fine wine. On top of everything else, it paints a very clear picture of Palpatine's profound narcissism, as it's so obvious that he is incredibly pleased with himself over the tale that he is spinning. When I see that scene, all I can think is that George Lucas CAN write good dialogue when he sets his mind to it. I only wish he'd set his mind to it a helluva lot more often when he made the PT.

And I like the opening space battle, which had me hooked from the moment I recognized the call-back to the very beginning of the original ANH shooting script: "War drums echo through the heavens..." True, I always missed the actual dogfighting that never really seemed to happen in the PT, and the fact that most of the time it was sentients against droids rather than a true matchup between pilots. BUT... the ROTS opening battle was still pretty damned cool... right up until the moment when Lucas laid those ridiculous, chipmunk-chittering "buzz droids" on us. (I'm not sure why virtually all of the droids in that movie had to sound like something out of Alvin and the Chipmunks, but there it is.)

And y'know, stuff like that might not have stuck out so badly if I'd at least been able to buy Anakin's turn to the dark side. The Jedi don't suddenly become "evil" because the kid is obsessed with his dreams about his wife dying. "My wife may die in childbirth, therefore I must slaughter this room full of children." It doesn't track at all. If Anakin was supposed to come to view the Jedi as vermin, as he did the Sandpeople, then this needed to be developed, we needed to be given some sort of legitimate reason that Anakin felt this way.

I get the feeling that there WAS some sort of background on that in an earlier version of the script, but that Lucas cut it all out so that he could focus on Padme as Anakin's primary reason for turning to the dark side. More's the pity.