Rey and Kylo's force connection.

Well, there was a theory about Rey being the reincarnation of Anakin. I had dismissed that theory before, but after seeing force skyping, force projection, and a force ghost summoning lightning to burn things down, that theory doesn't seem so far fetch to me anymore. The reincarnation theory could explain the existence of a Force connection between Rey and Ben even though she's not related to him in her current life. It's interesting that we had seen Yoda in TLJ and we had heard of Obi-Wan's voice in TFA, but so far no sign of Anakin.

 

I found that interesting, too. I've heard the theory and, while I do like the idea of the Chosen One being the one to ultimately bring balance to the Force again, it does seem far-fetched—though, like you mentioned, after what we see in The Last Jedi, maybe not so much. That being said, after the polarizing reaction The Last Jedi got, I'm fairly confident JJ is not going to go so far as to reincarnate Anakin through Rey. I think, in a sense, it takes something away from her as a character if she's essentially someone else.

However, I'd be fine with some sort of reference to Anakin/Vader in Episode IX—if it's done right.

 

It was impressive scenes by these two.

 

The meaning of the force connection between Rey and Kylo Ren is that reality wants to understand why the British accent and American accent are both true; the sexual tension between Rey and Kylo is an expected part of reality, therefore the actual investigation of the connection is to do with how the same reality can be attracted to different accents

 

the easy answer, Leia reminds Luke that his ex-lover is dead but that the daughter lived. luke goes to stop the connection. Of course, this makes Luke a terrible dad but that seems to be recurring theme for the Skywalkers, bad parents


The other answer is that Rey and Kylo are gonna get it going and Luke stopped that because he might have wanted to fall in love with rey, which would be disgusting given his age and hers.

the more risky idea is to make Rey’s connection Kylo just a contrast. kylo is an entitled millennial whereas Rey is the opposite and just tries to see the best in people. But who knows, all these theories are correct because with JJ Abrams, ANYTHING is possible. Like kylo and Rey could just be platonic and not everything involves romance but that would be too smart for Disney, but they had that for Jynn and Cassian.

Snoke could be lying or he really was that stupid. That’s the problem, all these theories are possible and nobody is wrong.

 

They're force bond reminded me of Revan and Bastila's force bond from Knights of the Old Republic.

 

Only fans had theories of who her parents were. She says she is no one in TFA. Maz tells her her family isn't coming back in TFA. In interviews Daisy is amazed that her parents were still a mystery and JJ says that her parents weren't in the film then iffers the caveat that we didn't meet them.

She knew her parents like many abused and neglected kids she creates a false view of her parents "they're coming back." Maz gently told her this Kylo sees it in her mind through their connection and forces her to acknowledge it.

No. Rey was under a giddy notion that if Luke just showed up Kylo would return to the light. She went herself when Luke would not go despite Luke's warning, "This isn't going to go the way you think." She went to confront Kylo and he would turn back good and everything would be happily ever after. Instead they kill Snoke but Kylo doubles down and rather than turn light he asks her to join him. It was a major moment. Kylo is now Supreme Leader. Rey failed. That's not nowhere. It reveals Kylo is the true threat going forward because lets face it he offered the join or die ultimatum. Rey went from the girl who people thought was perfect to follishly running in against all good judgment of a Jedi master and chose to set her own destiny not be defined by others. It set up the need for a new generation of Jedi.

Well if I remember correctly Snoke says he saw the connection and cultivated it thinking it would flush out Luke but instead it brought Rey. So the connection was real by it required Snoke's power to jump light years. Kylo even commented that Rey was not strong enough to do it. This clues us in that more is going on and if it needs saying Luke's later projection requires immense power.

 

I wonder because of their bond, that if one of them died, the other would too?

 

I hope that you're wrong. I don't find Kylo Ren all that compelling, despite Adam Driver's acting. As for this Force connection . . . I hope those two prove to be related. Because if Abrams tries to transform this into some kind of romance, the franchise will end up supporting some form of rape fantasy. It almost seemed like one in "TLJ".

 

Rey saying she was no one was in the trailer and not in the film if I remember correctly.

 

Rey is no one, so they are not related. And force bond scenes confirmed as romance.

As for the rape fantasy people, please do not equate minds meeting with rape. Because wtf.

It implies that Rey raped Kylo back by pushing into his mind...

 

It implies A RAPE FANTASY. Near the end of "The Force Awakens", Kylo Ren tried to mind rape Rey. He STARTED it. She fought back. Are you so determined that they become a couple that you've wiped this incident from your memories? Or the fact that "The Force Awakens" set two to three days before the events of "The Last Jedi"? Or is this about clinging to any romance that will prevent one between Rey and Finn, thus avoiding a biracial romance between a white woman and black man? This whole thing with fans fawning over Rey and Kylo Ren as a couple reeks of a rape fantasy. You cannot erase what J.J. Abrams had included in "The Force Awakens". Apparently, Rian Johnson tried his best.

 

Exactly.

Plus, it makes the Rey character’s main purpose to save the male Skywalker.

To turn him good.

Horrible message and twilight level corny.

Should have just revealed her as solo if nothing else than to kill the reylo garbage. It’s gross, corny, and unoriginal

 

I doubt it. When he force pushed her into that tree in TFA, there wasn't much care taken or reaction his part when she was knocked out.

 

If that’s the entire arc of the sequel trilogy, I agree it will be corny. I don’t think it will be the arc though. I get the feeling that Rey is no longer in a redemption mood. She was naive, she tried to change Kylo and bring him back to the light, it didn’t work at all, and now she’s learned her lesson and is moving on to follow her own Jedi path.

 

When Leia & Luke communicate via the force, it basically consists of them saying each other's names. They aren't able to see each other or bring back elements from where the other person is located (like water.) What Rey & Kylo are doing is much more.

Upon watching TLJ a second time, during the first scene of "force skype" Kylo says (this is a generalization not word for word) "Who's doing this? You're not doing this. The effort would kill you." This leads me to believe that the technique they are using is a form of force projection (like Luke used & ended up dying from). This also leads me to believe that it was in fact Snoke who created the link because of the incredible amount of force stamina required to pull it off. The fact that the connection still exists after Snoke "dies" makes me wonder....

 

Yeah I love the last shot of their ForceSkype. She just closes the door of the Falcon, the ship that was supposed to belong to him.

That redemption arc is done. Not that I wouldn't like to hear everybody's theory on why he'll be redeemed in 9....and roll my eyes at it.

 

You'll bring
Luke Skywalker to me.


You're not doing this.
The effort would kill you.


Can you see my surroundings?


You're gonna pay
for what you did!


I can't see yours.


Just you.


So, no.


This is something else.

 

But then the only new Skywalker is an irredeemable villain....

Which means this trilogy isn’t about the skywalkers, but a random girl.

Which leads to my other issue- the sequel trilogy to the Skywalker saga is not about the skywalkers- in fact the message seems to be to move beyond them.

So...what does this trilogy add to the saga?

Other than money, why call it the Skywalker saga?

 

I think the Sequel Trilogy is the closing out of the Skywalker saga. It's the ending to the rise and fall of a family that came from nowhere, fulfilled prophecies, destroyed the old order that reigned for 1000 generations, and rushed in a new age. In Anakin, the story of redemption after failing to live up to expectations; in Luke, the story of a hero who transcends his own legend and takes Yoda's advice to heart ("A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack"); and in Ben, the story of misunderstanding one's true destiny, and the one who can bring all of this to a fulfilling conclusion by the end of Episode IX (I hope!).

I don't think Ben is completely irredeemable. I think he will make some sacrifice in the very end that will do something to change the galaxy forever and that will give his character depth and some level of redemption; but I also think he represents the end of the Skywalker lineage. In fact, if we want to talk about turning the Skywalker saga into a "money making machine," Disney would likely do the opposite, redeeming Ben, and turning him into a good guy whose Skywalker stories we can follow forever more, and then when that's done, we can follow his kids' stories, etc, etc.

I'm satisfied with this trilogy still being part of the Skywalker saga even if Rey ends up the main hero, and the story is ultimately about her arc amidst the ending and fall of the Skywalker lineage. But that's my opinion. I can understand other opinions. These characters hold so much meaning to people, and so many different meanings, it's tough to come to a solution that satisfies all fans.