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Rey - Background Explained (my theory)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by baesy ridley, Dec 21, 2015.

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    So in my personal opinion, using theories and knowledge of what happens in the film (seen it twice), this is what i think is the story of Rey, the scavenger from the planet Jakku. First post, cut me some slack. haha :)

    - Before Luke was training the new generation of Jedi, he had a child, with an unknown women, on the planet with the first Jedi temple
    - This child (Rey) would be incredibly strong with the force.
    - She would be raised on this planet, and be trained by Luke, at a very young age
    - As Luke is training Rey, he decides to expand, and train a new generation of Jedi
    - At this academy, Ben Solo would also be trained (but would never see or hear about Rey)
    - When Ben Solo is turned into Kylo Ren and slaughters all the young Jedi, Luke's wife (identity unknown) would be caught in the crossfire and die
    - Luke would take his daughter Rey and the body of his wife, back to the first Jedi Temple (so the grave seen at the final scene of TFA, would be Rey's mother)
    - Luke at this point, is devastated, and feels responsible for the death of his wife and all the jedi younglings
    - Therefore, in an effort to give her daughter a chance at a normal life, and to get her away from the danger that comes with training with the force (and away from Kylo Ren possibly?), he would wipe her mind, and leave her on Jakku.

    - As her adventure progresses, and she is exposed to the force (e.g. Kylo Ren and Luke's lightsaber), the force awakens (tee hee) inside her.


    NOTES:
    This explains......
    - why Rey's force powers come so suddenly, she has been trained before hand
    - why she had visions of an island and ocean, when it seemed she had never been there before
    - why she is so good at flying the falcon, as the force guided her (like luke in "a new hope")
    - the look on Luke's face at the end of the film. A slight look of worry and sadness, because he has failed to keep his daughter out of danger

    Obviously just my opinion, tell me what you think!
     
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    Rey is 19 years old in TFA. (source: "Star Wars TFA Visual Dictionary"). As she was left on Jakku aged 5, we can say she has been on Jakku for 14 years. (This could also mean R2-D2 was asleep for 14 years too!)

    Buy "Before The Awakening" book and you'll read why Rey is so good at building, repairing and piloting ships. A very good book which also has two other chapters devoted to Finn and Poe origins and back-stories.

    Rey can fly a ship because she has rebuilt and flown one, a small freighter! But it was stolen before she could sell it. Rey also has a computer inside her AT-AT home which has a flight sim program which was scavenged from crashed ships. She uses the computer for education and entertainment,

    Learned a little more about Rey today, "Rey" might actually be a false name used as a disguise! Remember the scene where she's had dinner outside her AT-AT home wearing an X-Wing pilot helmet? On the side of the helmet is written the name of the previous owner, a Captain Raeh (written in Aurebesh). Rey is clearly fan-girling and has also made a Rebel pilot doll who I presume is of Captain Raeh. This information is available to read in the "Star Wars TFA Visual Dictionary"
     
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    Possible problem with your theory: if Luke found the first Jedi temple so soon after Kylo's betrayal, why would he have remained in hiding for 10-15 years after that? Any thoughts?
     
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    Great theory

    I think this your only flaw though^
     
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    I've an alternative theory. She's the daughter of the grandson of Qui Gon Jinn and the daughter of Corran Horn, so her full name is Rey Jinn Horn.
     
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    Rey Fay Wray. She stars in the King Kong with the practical effects.
     
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    Rey is another Anakin. When she was a little girl she started showing signs of force sensitivity and this scared her parents. Parents were influenced by the anti Jedi propaganda. They ditched her on Jakku. As she grew up she started to convince herself that one day they would return. She also suppressed her force sensitivity. It's a natural response for a force sensitive child abandoned by parents for being force sensitive.
    Deep down she knows her parents are never coming back and this is why she breaks down in tears when Maz talks to her after The Force Awakens inside her.
    It's not a case of Rey "learning" to use the Force, it's a case of Rey "letting the Force in". She has suppressed it for almost 15 years.
    Her natural bond with the Force is stronger than any character we have seen. The most powerful display of Force power we see is not the duel or the mind trick, it is the force vision upon touching the lightsabre. This force vision shows just how strong Rey's natural bond with the Force truly is. It is overwhelming because it is the first time her powers have expressed themselves to their full extent without being suppressed.
    After this moment she still tries to suppress it all, but gradually that suppressed mental state starts to evaporate. She can do a Jedi mind trick, but she is suppressing it, takes a while to fully let go when you have been suppressing something for 15 years. Then same thing at the end. Once she let's the Force in at the end she goes to town on Kylo, an apprentice that is badly injured has no chance. A Jedi's strength flow from the Force - Yoda. Her existing fighting ability is amplified massively once the Force becomes her ally.
    Why is she so naturally strong with the Force? I think the Force itself has chosen her. Once all 12 movies are complete we will see the full story. It will end with Rey destroying Snoke and Kylo Ren. I believe that Snoke is Plagueis and so the end of the saga will be Rey destroying the evil mastermind and the final Skywalker that came as a result of this evil mastermind's meddling in the darkside. Once this happens the story is over. The Force through Rey ends the destructive conflict that has plagued the galaxy for decades.
    When Rey and Luke meet at the end it is epic on many levels. From Rey's perspective, a child abandoned by hateful ignorant parents, she is now with Jedi Master Luke Skywalker. He is the father she deserved, he is the belonging she seeks.
    Rey was not at the Jedi academy, she is a complete outsider who has been surviving on Jakku as a nobody. Someone who I believe was at the academy is Snoke. Snoke destroyed Luke's academy from within. This is how he seduced Kylo to the darkside and explains how Han and Leia know Snoke. Once the academy failed, Snoke took some of the Jedi Knights including Kylo and was able to take over the remnants of the old Empire and form the First Order. The Jedi Knights who turned away from Luke and followed Snoke dropped Jedi and became Knights of Ren.
    Luke's academy failed because of Plagueis, not because of Luke.
     
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    I want to like this twice
     
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    Very true.

    The reason i put the first Jedi Temple so soon in the timeline, is because of Rey's vision. Not when she touched the saber, but when Ren was interrogating her. How could she see the islands and oceans of the first Jedi Temple, when it seems that all she has seen is a fragment of a map?
    This is why i believe she has been there before. (if her mind was indeed wiped by Luke, than it would make sense that this vision would only come when she is exposed to the force)

    This is where the timeline gets confusing. If Luke was indeed searching for the temple for those 10-15 years he was gone (which is what is illuded by Han when he is talking to Finn and Rey), he would have most likely dumped Rey on Jakku before that, which would mean Rey has never been there before and her vision of the islands and ocean was her foreseeing the future, not a memory.

    Obviously i'm poking holes at a theory that is probably not even right, but that's the fun of speculation.
    Any thoughts?
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    Great theory. Not going to lie it would be fresh if Rey wasn't a Skywalker at all. But a random person. That is after all what Star Wars is all about.
    There is so much evidence towards "Rey Skywalker" though, can't wait for episode 8!
     
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    I'm doubtful. The movie *hints* there is connection with Luke, but the novelization tells that Luke disappeared 20 years ago (I read in a review, though myself I couldn't find a reference on this). If this is true, however, this would make it impossible for Rey to remember Luke. She could be his daughter, by stretch... for example, let's say his wife has a child, and she is merely few months old toddler, and Luke gives her away for foster parents, who then ditch her on Jakku. That might work.

    But it would be a huge stretch.
     
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    Interesting. Does the novelization say how old Rey is when we first meet her in the movie?
    Because if i had to guess, not linking it to any theories, i would say she is around 18-20.
     
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    It sounds like you're assuming that the first Jedi temple is on D'Qar (the planet Rey finds Luke at). But what if it isn't? What if Rey visited D'Qar when she was a child?

    Or, what if seeing D'Qar (the sea, the island) was just one of the aspects of Rey's vision that weren't directly from her own memories? After all she did see a corridor from Luke's battle with Vader in ESB, and she hadn't even been born at that point. And, she saw a vision of her own future (her encounter in the forest with Kylo Ren)...
     
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    Correct me if i'm wrong, but when Han was talking to Finn and Rey about Luke's whereabouts, he said that Luke was looking for the first Jedi Temple. Obviously Luke could have found the temple (on another planet) then come back to D"Qar, but unlikely. It is most likely that D"Qar is indeed the location of the first Jedi Temple

    When she saw the corridor from ESB, and saw her encounter with Ren, that was in a force vision, when she touched the saber. She also saw the aftermath of the massacre of the young Jedi at the hand of Kylo Ren. Obviously, none of these are memories. But there was one memory in her force vision, and that was of her when she was young, and presumably when she was abandoned by her parent/s. She saw the past, and the future.

    This brings up the question, when Ren says that she sees an ocean and islands, is this her vision or a memory. Personally i'm leaning towards that it was a memory (which is why i included that she'd been there in my timeline), because when Ren was interrogating Rey, he was searching her mind for the map, and found what i think, is a memory.

    Obviously i don't know EVERYTHING, so i could be wrong. We'll have to wait and see
     
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    When Rey seas the island in the sea, it is the future she sees. The Force not only shows the past but also the future. Example - Luke once saw Han and Leia in a city in the clouds during TESB, even though the Falcon had not yet journeyed to Bespin yet. ;)
     
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    Very true, hadn't thought of that comparison.

    Obviously there are some flaws in my theory and parts that can be adapted, appreciate the input.
     
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    We also have no reason to think that Luke has actually found the temple yet. And it doesn't seem so crazy to me to think he found it and went elsewhere: what's plausible and what isn't, it seems to me, depends on what the temple is, what Luke wanted to do there, whether he accomplished his task, and so on. It will be fun exploring speculations along all of these lines...
     
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    If I recall correctly, it does. Rey is 19 years old.

    Hmm... I'm not so sure of that. There was a map that was left behind, showing a pathway to a hidden location; Kylo Ren also tells to Rey that they have missing pieces that they gathered from archives of the Empire but that they miss one piece: the one that Luke has. In the new canonization the Emperor had been collecting information about Jedi temples and artifacts having them destroyed/tested in his laboratories. To me it is relatively clear that Luke has seaked sanctuary in that temple, and that is where Rey finds him.
     
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    "The Jedi Steps" is the name of the song at the very end of the film, when Rey arrives at Luke's location. Obviously just a small piece of evidence.
    To me there is sufficient evidence to believe that the island Luke is found on is the first Jedi Temple
    "we have no reason to think Luke has found the temple yet", true. But the fact that we knew Luke is looking for it (and he's been searching for it for 15-20 years), and then we find him on this mysterious (temple-y) looking island/planet, spells it out pretty clearly to me.

    Just my thoughts
     
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    Ah yes, it makes sense that the information in the Empire's archives would have been for the temple. After all, how would those archives contained information on where Luke happened to flee to decades after the Empire's fall?

    But then, that leaves the following question: why wouldn't Emperor Palpatine have destroyed such a thing, if the Empire knew of its existence? Wasn't his mission to wipe out all vestiges of the Jedi? If I remember correctly, this comes up in Rebels: when Kanan and Ezra discover a lost Jedi temple, I believe Kanan says that the Empire had destroyed the ones they knew about. The mystery only increases...at least, I hope it's an intentionally crafted mystery, rather than a continuity error...
     
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    Rey's Force vision. She heard the voice of Jedi Master Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi. But no Anakin. Why wouldn't "her grandfather" speak to Rey in the vision?

    Rey has an English accent, not the US accents of the Skywalker's or the Organa-Solo's.

    Luke's voice-over in the trailer said "The Force is strong in MY family. My father had it, I have it, my sister has it. YOU have that power too". Luke doesn't seem to imply or confirm Rey is part of his family, he just says "you have that power too".

    She said "I have a big secret" to BB-8 during TFA. That secret could be her real name. The Visual Dictionary confirms Rey's X-Wing helmet has the name "Raeh" written on it, the name of Captain Dosmit Raeh who wore it during the Battle Of Jakku. Rey is fan-girling the pilot by using his name as an alias and keeps a doll of him too.

    So I'm predicting Rey is not a Skywalker, not an Organa and not a Solo. Obi-Wan Kenobi spoke to her, he has an English accent and Rey does too, so I'm predicting Rey is a relative of Obi-Wan Kenobi.;)
     
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