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Rey, our love,forever.

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by McDiarmid, Mar 29, 2018.

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    Aya is way to young for being Rey's mom, but we already had this discussion in a different thread.
     
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    What is the age difference?
     
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    In the book Aya is young woman and is telling her first-person story , she is probably 19 and she is searching for Luke Skywalker again,she is stowaway found in the cargo ship.

    Aya is telling story from her childhood, when she was 12 years old child Luke Skywalker came to her planet , saved her life, and changed everything.

    After Luke studdied Force on Lew'el, he leaved, and she is searching for him after years.

    This is a matter of really reading and trying to understand the book before debating and I am sorry we must do it again.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2018 ---
    Considering fact that Luke has found Star compass emediately after Endor (5 ABY) when he was 24, let say he found Lew'el year after, when he was 25, Aya was 12 years child,Luke saved her life and by this became friend of her poeople.

    When they met second time years after she was 19 presumably he was 32.

    12-13 years difference.

    ReyLo would be 10 -11 years difference(Rey 19, Ben almost 30)

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    Rey was born in 15 ABY.
    By my count her mother Aya was than 22.
    Luke was than 35, unaware of his child on a distant and cloaked Lew'el and was training a Jedi already
     
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    Facepalm....
     
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    The painting is the work of Rodel Gonzalez, a Filipino artist licensed by the Lucasfilm group to produce authorized art.

    Offical response:

    "“It is an original so there is no COA [Cert of Authenticity]. [These] are given to those submitted and catalogued for reproduction as limited editions. This painting is a stand alone original and a study work of the artist. As for the title, it is named Rey and not Rey Skywalker so it’s a small error we’ll correct.“

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    As a Beniri fan, (Ben/Tahiri) I can't bring myself to oppose Luke/Aya.
    As long as the pregnancy happened after Aya was more than 20 (or whatever age of consent was on Lew'el).
     
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    Rian Johnson made Luke interupting Rey(19) touching with Kylo(30) ,having in mind age of consent on Ahch-To .:p
     
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    Kylo is 29. So they are 10 years apart. Same as Leia and Han. Coincidence? I don't think so!
     
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    Right,thus age makes no difference.
    Luke - Aya 13. Han-Leia 10, Anakin-Padme (minus ) 5. etc etc.

    All that matters is true love.

    Btw Padme was 16 when she first met Anakin 11, and decade later Anakin admitted he never stopped thinking of Padme all those years.She was his Angel.

    Where we stopped..let see.

    Aya traveled around 8 years later after she met her Angel savior ,Luke,to find him again..
     
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    Don't forget the very obvious attempts at flirting Lando, an over 40 dude, made towards Leia, who was 22 at the time of Episode V.
     
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    There's no coincidence in Star Wars:

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    The pattern is: character number 1 says the word "afraid" to character number 2, character number 2 says "afraid" in return to character number 1 in the same scene, in the saga it only happen with these characters: Han/Leia, Anakin/Padmé, Kylo/Rey. And every time it's between a guy in black/dark costume and a female in white costume in an "intimate scene", the first two were followed by a kiss.

    The first two (Anakin/Padmé, Han/Leia) ended in a romantic relationship and continued the Skywalker family with children.
     
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    Just a moral obstacle...Kylo killed his father in front of Rey,and now there is no Snoke who would take responcibility.Not right.
    There is slight chance that Solo film will show Han was a bastard who deserved what he got ,to be killed by his own son....but I doubt.
    Sorry people I can't se ReyLo moraly plausible.When Padme saw what Anakin has became, she died,her heart refused to live. Leia would never love Han if Han was evil,how about patricidal murderer?

    Love is powerful,but ReyLo ,now that Kylo has done what he has done in the films would be travesty of love.Forced travesty.

    EDIT..for God's sake why Han couldn't died not by hand of Kylo..than it will be all ok.Or at least if Snoke was made ultimate pupet Master who made Kylo obedient robot, and not an old cripple executed by Ben ,Ben who ploted his ascendancy all the time and even killed his father to came closer to power..
    Or even just a last minute Kylo's regret....nothing.He actually asks from Rey to became like him..
     
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    Wait. Kylo Ren is roughly around 30 . . . and he behaves like an adolescent? And I'm supposed to care for him? Not bloody likely.
     
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    The story group is sure they can make Kylo plausible..--he is traumatised, his terrible uncle Luke gave him good night, -its because of the trauma. Also, according to new Han Solo novel:"Last shot" he was traumatised in unbeliavable ways. When he was 2 years old kid, a droid in the kitchen , tried to cut the small Ben in to peaces, of course while his caring parents pursued their own interests(careers) and left the child alone.

    Ben was "home alone" thus his developmental arc was lagging. But, you should know he is now Supreme Leader because he developed as a character by turning on the light saber in old Snoke's own pocket that cut Snoke in half, and by this he developed himself as a character...so he can grew up.Aso he killed his own father Han Solo in episode VII, and the reason for doing this was why not.

    ( Honestly, this people need someone firendly to sit with them and them to listen and accept something is wrong with the stuff they are still throwing on the pile of junk that Kylo Ren's story arc already is).
     
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    NOTIFICATION : this is exact copy of the starting post of this thread.

    Original post has became unavailable some time ago due to unusual problems within the upload domain I used to store those images.

    TIPS --if you bought Blue-Ray/DVD of The Last Jedi please use slowest play or even single frames since its fast moving short scene, few seconds, watch both shadows in the dark cave from the start after they appear after Rey requests:"Show me my parents".

    Left taller "shadow" ,observe: first its a shadow of Darth Vader with wide head and shoulders because of his helmet and suit, that emediately as it approaches turns into more slim shadow of Jedi Anakin .

    Right shadow observe: is Luke silouete walking on bespin, those are walking moves of Luke,briefly you can even see silouette of arms on his belt.

    Than both shadows converge, however Anakin shadow positions behind Luke's shadow (since he was before him) as Luke approaches mirror.

    Rey places her hand on the mirror first, and only than shadow in the other side of mirror touches her hand with his Right hand which is symbol of Skywalkers(Luke lost right hand ).

    Rey than sess face of herself, just as Luke on Dagobah has seen himself in a helmet (frame) of his father, Vader.

    To mr. Rian Johnson:
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    May the Force be with you .
     
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    I am free to present newly established facts about the concept of the Force, and explanation of the Dark Cave.

    Force is One. It has two phases, Tides, and Ebbs. Like movement of the sea. Tides manifest as Light side, Ebb is perceived as Dark side, but its one single Cosmic Force. It goes in circles, constant change.

    Force can not lie(poeple using Force can but Force itself not) . Snoke could Lie, Kylo to, but Force in cave didn't lied to Rey.
    Cave however denied Rey the information in a way she could interpret it.

    Ahch-To cave , said in novel, was carved by sea waves, and is actually flooded during Tide of the sea.
    Rey came there durring Ebb phase,when cave is dry,and dark and she got information blackout - cave deprived her of information. We call it Dark side.
    Cave didn't told to Rey she is nobody, Rey says she got just zero(0) information from the cave,from the Ebb.
    On behalf of Rey , who never saw Vader or Anakin, and young Luke, and never knew what Luke experienced in Dagobah cave, she got zero information in the Dark cave ,two shadows that became her...nothing...Ebb.

    But we, public, got something. As this is great work of art.

    Rey is powerfull, she asks the Force to show her parents, she bends the Force to give her the truth about her parents.
    Dark phase (cave) of the Force can not stay inactive on such demand by Rey. Still,it denies her the final truth while retaining basic property of Cosmic Force itself, of been unable to lie, just deprive Rey of final answer.
    Cave scene is signature of author who is genius, as genius must left signature.This is for us. Rey in the film got no information from it. We did.

    In my deepest respect to capacity of mr Johnson I am free to show for the first time never interpreted details of perfection of this scene, a true mastery and intellectual excellence of his work.

    Rey approaches the mirror in the cave. She touches it and founds itself in the opposite side of mirror in which picture is reversed, her right hand is now left, her left hand is now right.

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    Once more, note, Rey enter a mirror and her left side is now right,right is now left.

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    What Rian Johnson delivers next is breathtaking visualisation of the Tide which is the Force, Light side.

    Rey is snapping with her fingers creating a sound which spreads in waves. Its a symbol of water waves, a water coming ,a Tide.Light. And she is acually iluminated by light from above...

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    Rey says she knows it must end somewhere. And certainly does end.

    Because Force, Tide, has circles, circles of Tide and Ebb, and there is constant change.

    Rey reaches the point of change , a next mirror which manifestes transition of the Tide to an Ebb, Light side to the Dark side. Change.

    Rey tries to influence the outcom, for cave to show her her parents, but Ebb phase denies Rey the information in a wy that she can not understand and use anything of it .

    Jet, she touches the shadow from the other side with her(rememeber!) right hand, and the shadow gives also right hand.Right hand touches right hand.

    Breathtaking.

    Apart from the fact that both Anakin and Luke have lost their Right hands,and powerfuly implies what are Rey's true origins,
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    it also symbolises perfect unity of the Force, oneness, with two mirrored sides of one same reality, of One Cosmic Force.

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    .. ...

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    WE TRUST REY 100% TO LEAD THE NEW ERA OF JEDI
    IT'S COFFIN NAILS FOR THE FIRST ORDER IN EP 9
     
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    That's why Leia says to her "we have all that we need".
    Rey is ultimate tool of the will of the Force (already said so in the novel).
    Rey will find her origins, which ARE important for her to realise something. Not who she is, because she has already proved in ep. VIII she is great regardles of her origins, but for her to realise what is her true purpose in the destiny of the galaxy.
    When this happens, FO is doomed. (And Kylo I think will be redeemed in the only way he understands,by force).

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