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SPECULATION Rey - public opinion poll

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by TheGreyandTheRed, Oct 29, 2017.

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What is your opinion of Rey as a character? Give reasons

  1. Love her

  2. Yeah, I like her

  3. Not sure yet

  4. I'm not keen

  5. Can't stand her

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  1. TheGreyandTheRed

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    I've briefly touched on this topic in a couple of other forums but after another member stated that 'rey is the best character since Luke'. I'm now really intrigued in others opinions because I just don't get the fascination. I'm firmly on the fence.

    IMO I think she's quite one dimensional and dare i say a bit of a 'mary sue' Her motives to me; are just very week. She got told by Maz (someone she had just met) that the one thing she had been living for was never going to happen and without so much as a backward glance it was forgotten and she's all of a sudden on the other half of the galaxy looking for luke. It was never mentioned again.

    Inbetween that happening she picks up a light sabre for the fist time and utterly destroys someone who is more comfortable using one than he would a knife and fork.

    I understand there is a lot that is not explained but what I don't understand is why people have bought into her so much. Is there something I'm missing?

    Don't take this as me trying to slight the character because I'm not. I don't dislike her in anyway, I just don't find her character particularly appealing YET. hopefully TLJ convinces me, otherwise 9 will not be a film I will enjoy watching.

    I'm simply asking what other people opinions of her are. I'm not asking you to judge mine. I'm not here to judge or belittle your opinions.
     
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    what is your obsession with Rey? Others like Finn, others like Kylo. Why cannot people like her just because you don't. Are you trying to prove she is the worst character ever on the basis of this forum. Promoting the characters you prefer over her. I just dont get your focus on Rey alone. You have already said you want her character dead. Just let others be.
     
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    I still don’t get why a lot of people expect Rey to be a complete and relatable character after TFA alone; it’s a trilogy for a reason.

    The Force literally awoke in her specifically: I’d actually be surprised if she didn’t beat Kylo in that state. There is very clearly much more to this character, and as I’ve said before: it’s wrong to judge a character who’s the protagonist of a trilogy based on the film introducing them.

    I’m nearly certain that TLJ will stop this silliness regarding her being a Mary Sue, and if not? Something really bad’s happening in IX...

    I love Rey as a character. I love Daisy Ridley’s portrayal of Rey. And I cannot wait for this to be a non-topic, hopefully sooner rather than later.
     
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    Whoa I have no obsession over her and I am in no way trying to bash what other people think and nor am I trying to convince any one to change their opinion.

    I am generally asking what do other people see that I don't? I have no agenda

    So calm yourself. This is a forum for discussion is it not?
     
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    One dimensional? No, she isn't. If she is a Mary Sue which she isn't then so is Ripley, Sarah Connor and Leia. But I bet you don't have a problem with Neo, Harry Potter and ,yes even Luke.
     
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    Except in tone, while you claim to be firmly on the fence, your tone says otherwise. There are multiple threads delving into different aspects of Rey where folks have REPEATEDLY hashed out their opinions with folks who feel differently. The way you presented the poll clearly shows that you have negative feelings toward Rey and it could very easily be seen as you looking for folks to validate your stance. When you finish with "but what I don't understand is why people have bought into her so much. Is there something I'm missing?" you've all but fully tipped your hand especially considering the amount of times that these things have been rehashed in this and other fan forums. That is why it appears that you are seeking validation.
     
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    Seems like a pretty fleshed out character with a lot of depth to me. A world of difference with Luke in A New Hope and Anakin in Phantom Menace. At least Rey has emotional substance and a sense of mystery to her. Not to mention that she is highly likeable and any fan can relate to her (that scene at her AT-AT home) at the most basic level.
     
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    @TheGreyandTheRed being clear, I am not accusing you of seeking validation. I am just explaining why it might cause folks to consider that you are doing it.
     
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    Well I assure you I am not. It was a genuine question. I am slightly negative toward the character but that's not so say I really dislike her and I did state that I'm HOPING to be proved wrong. The character has potential bit at this point in time I'm not entirely sold.
     
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    I am calm, am not the one trying to be devise and causing 'hate'. I'm not sure why you why you are doing it. Why should I question some ones views of liking of Finn or Kylo, ect.... I don't!
     
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    That's fair enough, I have amended the original post to hopefully assure people that is not the case. If it was I'm sure there's a thread somewhere on here for anti rey sympathisers to bash her to their hearts content. That's not what I'm trying to do.

    I'm looking for alternative points of view and nothing else
     
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    Having been around for long enough on these forums to know better, I know that @Bluemilk didn’t mean to imply that you were sexist in any way.

    This talk is getting quite uncivilised and has deteriorated very quickly, so I think it would be wiser if we all bring it down a notch.

    Honestly, I think this angst has come around more out of frustration: many of us have already talked about Rey being a Mary Sue to death at this point, and have debated why she might or might not be one.

    We’re all humans behind these walls of text, so I’ll reiterate: let’s bring this down a few notches to have a calm and polite debate about this topic.

    If you’re frustrated by this post at all - at this point I personally am a bit tired of such conversations, or at least, when they circle around aimlessly - then I must, at the very least, suggest that you second guess clicking that submit button and simply leave for another thread.

    Anger leads to hate.
     
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    I did not say you were at all sexist. I'm just saying if Rey is a mary sue as you called her then so are those I mentioned. I'm also saying that those male characters must be Gary stu's and one dimensional according to your post. Just comparing not calling you sexist. I don't think that.

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    Fair point.
     
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    I misread the pole but 'can't stand' is pretty much the same. If makes you happy I will apologize but then again its still the same sentiment.

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    Think I'll stay away from this topic in future definitely did not expect people to get that emotional over it.

    I'll just head toward the exit....(r2-d2)
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    As much as it says can't stand at one end it also said 'love' at the other I'd say the two are pretty equal.
     
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    I like Rey. I like her innocence and find her optimism endearing. I wonder if this aspect of her character is deliberate? especially when it comes to the relationship she will have with Luke. At her age Luke was a whining pessimist who was desperate to escape his desert home; Rey immediately comes over as the polar opposite.

    Rey is a fantastic role model, not just for young girls (and they sure need more good ones from Hollywood), but for all kids. Resilience, kindness, resourcefulness. Personally speaking I am all for that; if you question why we need all this diversity/equality stuff in movies perhaps you haven't been following the news recently. To me It isn't political correctness gone mad - it's society finally waking up to the reality of 21st century life. If you find yourself feeling force fed, well, I guess your political outlook differs from mine and there's no point engaging in politics on a space-fantasy internet forum is there?

    As far as the Mary Sue thing; as others have already noted we know almost nothing about this character so far. I wholly expect the reasons for her long list of uncanny talents to have a clear explanation once we learn who she is and what her role is in all this.
     
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    Rey is not a Mary Sue, she is force-sensitive... btw.
     
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    She is not a Mary Sue, because everything she is exceptionally good at (mechanical stuff, fighting, climbing) can be explained by her long stay at Jakku. Although Rey knowing how to do a Force mind trick is extremely stupid, it doesn't make her a Mary Sue either - it's just bad writing.

    I think the issue people might have with her character is her genderless personality, which is something we haven't seen in a Star Wars film before. Rey's character could have been a boy, and it would feel very natural. Overall, she doesn't show any particular feminine traits that make her believable as a woman (besides looking like one). I know some people might have issues with this view in today's debate climate, but before you jump to name-calling bear in mind that I'm just trying to make sense of the situation. To deny that men and women look and act different is to deny logic. Although there are men who possess more feminine traits, they belong to the minority of men, and although there are women who possess more masculine traits, they also belong to the minority of women.
    You may disagree, but it's not wrong to admit that Rey challenges the traditional view of what is expected of a female character.

    I also think that the comparisons to Sarah Connor and Ripley are somewhat unfair in this way, since both of them possess very feminine traits in their first movies. Sure, they kicked ass, but it took them both one movie before becoming badasses. And even in Aliens, I still feel Ripley acts a lot like a woman. People need to learn that being a woman does not equal being weak.
     
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    Thank you. That's the kind of response I was hoping to gain from the post. Just to make clear as well I'm not questioning diversity or anything like that I'd have exactly the same opinion if Rey was male, trans, black, Chinese or martian. My opinion does not factor that in at all. Its purely from a characterisation point of view.

    From a sociopolitical pov I totally agree with you. I was so pleased star wars opted to move a more culturally diverse cast into the spotlight as main characters rather than supporting when they made TFA.

    Hopefully it is just a case of having her back story fleshed out.

    Thank you for replying.
     
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