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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.
  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    17.2%
  2. Yes I like it

    13.0%
  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    14.9%
  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    18.1%
  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    41.9%
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  1. TheGreyandTheRed

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    @lealt @master_shaitan @FN-3263827

    I fully agree with any of these theories, they all have their merits and catches and I'd be quite happy to see any of them play out. My personal preference would be a one sided romance purely because I think it sends the strongest message especially if Kylo was to sacrifice himself for Rey's benefit. Also just to be clear sacrificing himself doesn't equate to sacrificing his own life it could be something more subtle or more drastic, possibly being made to choose between saving Leia or rey?

    'Self-sacrifice is very easy. But sacrificing someone you love puts your convictions to the test. ' This is a quote I've always appreciated and funnily enough it comes from the film 'The First Knight' which is set in Arthurian Legend.

    Coincidence.....? Lol

    But in all seriousness I like all the above discussed ideas and most importantly they all make sense and leave no plot holes *cough* Rey Solo *cough*.
     
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    wow that's dark. but interesting! hahahaha : D
     
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    Higlihts from very important latest Daisy Ridley interview for USA Today.


    "Kylo Ren and Rey are two people who represent two very different sides of life, good and evil," she says. "That's going to be explored more in this."

    "Luke is annoyed by Rey".


    Conclusion : Kylo Ren and Rey aren't going to be lovers(we know that anyway), but are connected, yet oposite, that almost securely makes them brother who has gone dark way and sister preserved on light..bet on that guys!!

    Luke isn't her father, she annoys him.

    That makes her Rey Solo.



    spice:
    Ridley says the torture scenes (when Snoke tortures her) were long enough to leave her hoarse. "It was painful. My throat hurt after that one,"

    wow--Snoke badly torturing Rey confirmed.


    Full article https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2017/11/14/daisy-ridley-porgs-kylo-ren-and-more-star-war-last-jedi-teasers/851353001/

    Thank you for participating in most advanced TLJ decription thread, time closing in...
     
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    I'm sorry, but how???

    We don't know that a romantic Reylo won't happen, She is just saying that Kylo is on the dark side (at the moment) and Rey is on the light, TLJ will explore this. Especially with Kylo i reckon.

    "Luke is Annoyed by Rey" does not mean Luke isn't her father (this coming from me, who dislikes Rey Skywalker with a passion). Luke can be annoyed by Rey and be her father.

    You are trying to twist information into evidence for Rey Solo, but it just does not work. It is time to let go of the corpse of this theory and bury it alongside Rey Erso and Rey Bridger. Open your mind to other theories that have not yet been invalidated.
     
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    To be honest, I'd rather not have Rey be a Solo. Let me be clear; I never really liked Han Solo. So, this isn't me being tribalistic on that account. But really, while I could see it working, I just find myself saying "been there, done that.". Specifically, with Jania Solo. I will admit; I am not the biggest fan of the post-ROTJ EU. But Legacy of the Force was a great series of books and I enjoyed Jaina's arc a lot.

    And really, Rey and Ben(I still hate that name. Why Ben?) would very much seem like a copy of that. For granted, LF could twist this in a different way, much like how they have reintroduced Legends concepts, but tailored them to their NC. But really, this begs the question: if LF wanted to rid of Legends to tell their own stories, then why borrow from Legacy of the Force in making Rey Jaina? Wouldn't they have been better to just adapt Jaina and Jacen Solo?

    Maybe, I am missing something, but really I'd be more down with Rey being related to Luke in that instance. Namely, to where it would seem a little bit more creative, even if it is predictable, in my view. But to be honest; Rey's backstory I could care less about. A character can have an epic backstory and still be bad. It's their traits, motivations and what they bring to the story that makes them likable.

    And Rey, I just find her a bit bland. Ridley's acting, though, was good. But if I had a gun pointed at my head and had to pick, I'd rather her just be related to an ordinary group of Jedi. Why?

    Because, for starters, it would connect back well to the OT in that Luke when we got to know him was an ordinary guy when he first started and I do love the idea that Rey inherited Luke's will due to her merit and opposed to Ben who has a legacy on his shoulders. Now, let me be clear; I am not implying this cannot happen with her being a Solo, Kenobi or Skywalker.

    It can, if executed very well with some stellar writing. But as of now, I just think that the message of merit vs. legacy would be a lot stronger if Rey was not related to anyone. Because, it would be a cool meta-commentary, much like (SPOILER ALERT FOR BLADE RUNNER 2049), with that movie and K's storyline of whether or not he was Deckard's kid(END SPOILERS FOR THE MOVIE).

    But like I said; I have no horse I am particularly backing.
     
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    I can actually hear the bottom of the barrel being scraped...
     
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    I just hope that at the end of the day, whether she is Rey Solo, Rey Skywalker, Rey Kenobi, Rey Palpatine, or Rey Random, there isn't a faction of fans who refuse to accept it or are disappointed by it (which at this moment seems highly likely). I just hope that any perceived "plot holes" are well written and explained so that some fans do not declare that any previous movies (i.e. TFA) or EU stories (i.e. Bloodlines) are a farce, let alone the entire ST. Likewise, I hope that the reveal and ultimate plot does not disgust a decent portion of the fans (like Reylo would for me or an incestuous relationship between Rey and Kylo would for just about everyone, all rickrolling aside)...

    From the sounds of Lucasfilm's excitement over Rian Johnson's entry into the saga, I am cautiously optimistic.
     
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    I already have my moms basement set up Keith Olberman style, ready to go incase she isn't Rey Skywalker.
     
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    Yeah...I fully expect this to be the case.

    Remember how a child psychologist suggested Yoda confirm to Luke that he is indeed the son of Vader to George Lucas?

    If something like that was needed for the reveal of Luke’s parents, I wonder what the plan is for the reveal of Rey’s.

    But absolutely, I’m in the same boat. My preference is for her to be Luke’s daughter, but if she’s a Solo, Kenobi, Palpatine, etc., I won’t mind, so long as it serves to further the story and is presented in a way which makes sense.

    Let me be clear: I’m terrified as to how this community will react to the reveal of Rey’s parents, whoever they may be.
     
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    I've convinced myself she is Luke's daughter but neither know it yet. Luke figures she died when his temple burned and Kylo betrayed him, and that belief contributed to him exiling himself away. Once Snoke has Rey and starts torturing her Kylo will go to Luke on Ahch-to, they'll fight a bit and there will be a reveal during the fight along the likes of "You killed Han, and my daughter" and Kylo something like "No, I saved your daughter, and left her on Jakku. Now help me save her from Snoke". Then you see him extend his hand as in the trailer but Luke takes it instead. Boom, a big twist reveal and cliffhanger.
     
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    To all the "Rey is the daughter of Luke/daughter of Leia-Han":

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    Problem is, Rey Solo has no happy ending. If she is a Solo my interest in this trilogy will greatly diminish because it will show a lack of craft. I love talking about Star Wars and debating all the interesting ideas it throws up. But if this absurd thing happens that makes TFA a joke then I'm not going to take it as seriously as I do now.

    Rey was left on Jakku at least 6 years before the Temple was burned down.
    The only means of writing around that and having her be there would be in suggesting that she had a brain trauma from the incident or someone messed with her mind and hid her away. So although she thinks she was 5-7 when left on Jakku, she was actually 13. But there is no sign that this is the case.
     
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    And so you will have a jedi master trying to teach that attachment is the way to the dark side and having his own family with him on the academy ?

    I begin to understand why Ben Solo destroyed it all.
     
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    Point proven, my friend? There were people here before TFA who became so enraged at the rumor that Luke Skywalker was only in the last 30 seconds of the movie that it was clear it was going to ruin the experience for them. Ultimately, some couldn't handle the discussion about it on these forums and got banned. (I am not in any way trying to suggest that could or would happen with you... despite differences of opinion and sometimes walking the line, as we all do, you are a straight-shooter and respectful. :D) Unfortunate for them, as I think that reveal for most fans ultimately provided a really great cliffhanger, and an emotional scene that really amped up the anticipation for TLJ. In other words, it worked.

    So what I am getting at is, I think people need to remain more open minded to the possibilities, whether they be Rey Skywalker, Rey Solo, Rey Kenobi, Rey Skywalker-Kenobi (my favorite), Rey Palpatine, Rey Imperial, Rey Random, or otherwise. There are obviously things that people who do not have the power of foresight now see as plot holes (or bad writing) with many different theories, but we are looking at them with incomplete information and a story not yet told. I think there is a plausible way that any of these theories can work and work well if we all just give the story group a chance to tell the story that has been written. I was confident in them before, and I am even more confident in them now.

    We are setting ourselves up for disappointment if we become so married to our own personal preference for the story, or so married to the notion that a certain theory just flat out can't work without it being bad. Why do that to yourself? This is the greatest time ever to be a Star Wars fan and I just think too many people get so wrapped up in their own head canon (or analysis, which can be fun if not taken too seriously) that they are failing to enjoy it as much as possible. That's all.

    EDIT: As for no happy ending with Rey Solo, I actually think that is one of the only ways that the Solo family has a happy ending. Someone from the Solo family who will (be tempted but) remain in the light and not die. Sorry... but I don't see how Ben Solo survives. We are getting the tragic downfall that Anakin Skywalker should have been. Ben Solo redeemed, yes. But deader than a doornail at the end of it all.

    I actually think that Rey Solo may end up being the best story that can be told, even if it is to the detriment of TFA. I loved TFA when it first came out (still do), but understood much of the criticism of it after seeing how spectacular Rogue One was. I strongly suspect that TFA will be the worst of the ST... but it served its purpose of re-setting the table in the Star Wars universe (and making Disney boatloads of money). In short, TFA may very well suffer for Rey Solo, but it may be for the larger good of the franchise and the ST in the end.
     
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    I was with you all the way up to Rey Solo. I respect anyone's opinion and I'm pretty much on board with any theory except that one.

    If TFA becomes a 'casualty' of the Rey solo theory then that is one of the biggest insults to an audience in film history. You cannot haphazardly disregard the events before to make way for a change in story. The Luke/Leia sibling switch was bad enough. Disregarding or diminishing a whole film is absurd.
     
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    What I mean by a TFA "casualty" as you have called it, is not to suggest that the film should be viewed as "bad" if she is Rey Solo. I fully expect that there would be good explanations for what we saw in TFA... but I also recognize that not everyone is going to be 100% satisfied with those explanations. So perhaps TFA is viewed in much the same way that ANH and ESB are... after the reveal of Darth Vader as Luke's father in ESB... and Leia as Luke's sister in ROTJ.

    Do those reveals/inconsistencies make us roll our eyes a bit at OB1's line:
    Or do we roll our eyes when we watch Leia throw a ferocious lip lock on Luke in ESB knowing what we know from the reveal in ROTJ?

    Sure.

    Do we REALLY dislike ANH and ESB because of them? I highly doubt the fandom would agree to that...

    All I am saying is that the issues people see now in TFA may very well end up like those inconsistencies above (As hard as it may be to see it now. After all, if you knew the reveals in the latter OT movies before seeing the earlier ones, would you say it was "the biggest insult to the audience in film history"? I think that might be overstating it just a bit... I for one am not insulted, and won't be, unless they just completely fail to explain anything and just say, "Rey you are Han and Leia's daughter" without anything more.)

    And these kinds of TFA inconsistencies may even be deliberate, as some perceived Star Wars "formula"... The ring theory is true, you know. ;)

    (Even in this seemingly inverse version of the ring theory in the ST.)
     
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    Those were utterly different scenarios and have been easily incorporated into the story without creating plot holes. Not only is this borderline impossible with Rey Solo (short of bringing some awful mind wiping device) but it simply cannot save TFA from being used as a cheap trick of a film.

    Yes. We cringe. It is bad. But it isn't a plot hole.

    This isn't about me getting mad or worrying about losing an argument. I'd happily concede to Rey Solo if it made sense. What I don't like is the idea that TFA was used to trick us, at the expense of that story and in creating avoidable plot holes. I'd simply lose interest in the saga and bemoan the amount of time I spent debating the subject of her parentage in good will.
     
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    All I can say to this is you are, of course, entitled to your opinion. But it is just that. An opinion. While it may not be my favorite idea, I still believe Rey Solo and TFA can be made to work in a similar fashion to OB1's lie and the incestuous kiss. EDIT: We will just have to wait and see whether or not they could be "easily incorporated into the story without creating plot holes." In my view, most of the things that people see as plot holes are still very largely open to interpretation (See, e.g., Maz Kanata's dialogue with Rey under the castle...)

    This highlighted portion is exactly my original point. I hate to see anyone become so invested in their preferred outcome or analysis of why something can't happen that it ultimately diminishes their enjoyment of the ST. I hope for everyone's sake, that doesn't happen, whatever Rey's parentage reveal is.

    So best of all worlds for the sake of making the the largest number of fans happy? Let's go with Rey Skywalker. :p

    (After all, I know you warmed up, however slightly, to the possibility that Luke may have forged a new Jedi path or not have known about a child he fathered... ;))
     
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    I'd accept Rey Skywalker. I don't think it an inspired choice and it goes against Luke's character as a Jedi master somewhat. I don't think the evidence looks good but it remains reasonably likely. I'd accept it. Rey Solo cannot be explained - not by dialogue in TLJ. It's not like the POV stuff from the OT.
     
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    Rian Johnson: “It makes me very happy that [The Last Jedi] felt unexpected to the actors. That to me is a compliment, but I don’t think it would ever be good to start a storytelling process by saying ‘let’s be unexpected, what will they never see coming?’ That’s never where you want to begin. I think, to me, unexpectedness is a byproduct of telling a story honestly. So I started with the characters and I said: ‘Where does it make sense for these characters to go in my mind?’ And that’s going to lead you in unexpected places if you let it. But hopefully, when it leads you to unexpected places, it’s the sort of thing like in life where you never could have predicted it but it seems inevitable after it happens.” (SciFi Now magazine #139) (archive)

    John Boyega:
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