Rey Solo

That's such an ambiguous comment in the visual dictionary. It really does not say anything direct about Reys parentage at all.

 

I think that comment above in the VD combined with another thing in the VD does really push the Rey Solo thing.

 

Go on...

 

The part about Snoke thinking Luke has to be killed a certain way. In the TFA novel I am convinced that was Snoke telling Rey to finish Kylo off because he knew she was that bloodline also. Snoke's and Kylo's reaction to hearing that she was a girl in the movie besides Pablo's deflections on that. I think they knew she was hidden from them.

 

I always took that as the dark side taking over Rey, not Snoke.

Secondly, the whole “hidden from Snoke” concept sounds fine by itself but the practicalities of it don’t make sense. Hidden by whom? Why wasn’t Ben hidden? Why didn’t Snoke know who Rey was? Etc

 

Did we ever get a certain age that Ben turned for sure or started acting like the darkside was really pulling at him?

 

Are you suggesting that Han and Leia also sent their daughter to train with Luke?
You need to have a think about what that means...and where there is any evidence of it (hint: there isn't).

I'm not sure. I've not read Bloodlines properly and have it in my head that he was 23 when he turned. It's all a bit confusing. I can't remember whether Pablo said the temple scene or the massacre scene happened 6-7 years before TFA....

 

I am not sure either but I am thinking he may have made Leia really nervous about this darkside stuff even before he went off with Luke.

 

To be honest, it still might just be that Ben did destroy the temple aged 23 and no one knew until several years later. In fact, based on what we do know, that sounds more likely thinking about it.

 

No, it doesn't.
It is the same problem, regardless of when Ren turned bad.
Whether Rey was at the Temple or not, there is no accounting for her being dumped on Jakku by the Solo's/Skywalker's, nor is there any evidence that a Solo child existed.

 

Ben Solo is 22-23 years old in Bloodline, he hasn't turned, and he's with Luke.
Bloodline takes place 6-7 years before TFA.

Ren Ben is now 29-30 years old. he's been with the FO for 5 or 6 years (this piece is sketchy based on Dawson's Phasma book).

 

Not this again.
It was a dream. Leia didn't die. There is no mention of twins. Rey is 10 years younger than Ben. It likely was a vision of her mother's childbirth.

 

He could have been acting out years earlier and Leia sensing the darkness of Snoke decided to take drastic action with her young child. They would have purposely avoided the issue in those books. The first order was also killing force sensitive children like the Empire was and Leia could have possibly sensed that early on and felt it was a huge danger.

 

No, it's a bad dream Leia has leading up to childbirth. And it's probably put there to try and explain in canon why Leia remembers things that Luke doesn't. A retcon.

Again: Leia didn't die. She was awake during childbirth and she had one child. Rey and Ben are not twins.
You have to answer those points, first.

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Again - this just repeats all of the issues we had throughout this thread. It doesn't work on too many levels to go over again.

 

Not interested in going over this again. She's dreaming. She thinks it is her - probably because it is point of view or vague (and looks like her). No one knew there were twins until they were born so explains the implied surprise.