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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.
  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    17.2%
  2. Yes I like it

    13.0%
  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    14.9%
  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    18.1%
  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    41.9%
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  1. McDiarmid

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    So Han is Murderer?

    I suspected this.Kylo is holding Han reponcible for his young sister's death.
    Snoke would certainly exploit such circumstances.Anger,Revenge,same things Palpatine approved to Anakin.

    In twisted reality of Kylo, killing Han was perfect act of revenge and defeating seducing "Light side",his love to his Father.

    If Kylo realy believed Han is murderer,he is.partly..justiffied?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Han killed a lot of people. In TFA, he killed a bunch of dudes.

    So yes, he's a murderer.
     
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    Kylo thinks personal .
    Kylo holds Han responcible for act of murder and I am sure it is not Greedo or Boba Fett,or some Stormtroopers.
    Its personal fact that Kylo holds responcible for everything.

    I know now where to go and search further.Thank you.
     
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    There are numerous situations that legally separate killing from murder and nearly every moral system makes the same distinction. Conflating the two is dangerous.
     
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    I'm not sure Kylo Ren has the same view of good and bad than you. Actually, the bad guys think the good guys are the bad ones.
     
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    It makes sense,not that it must be true story,but there is no reasom not to be either.
    Snoke arranged abduction of little girl (her birth name is not Rey)when she was 4 (before?) which resulted in catastrophy in which she was lost for the family. Snoke tried to influence Ben entire his life but he was strong,and family love keeped him and his sister safe from him.
    Snoke's strike was in the most vulnerable point of the family,young child.
    Circumstances of this fictional story were this:Han hold himself responcible for the
    loss of the 4 years old child.Perhaps Han failed to save girl making mistake that looked like that mistake led to child's death.Ben(14 years old then) lost his sister.He lost confidence in his father.Leia than sends teenage Ben to Luke,(she didn't want his child to train in Jedi ways before this!)but the seed of Ben's fall was placed already.
    Leia says she shouln't send Ben away.She should have keeped father and son together.Luke is a Jedi,but Han is his father. Ben needed love and confidence.

    Solo's are not family disaster,the disaster struck them,arranged by Snoke.I want him suffer.
     
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    Again great points you made.

    Leia didn't wanted Ben to be trained in Jedi ways!
    She wanted him to live normal life.

    Sending Ben to Luke in his teen age to train in Jedi was was undeniable sign of a turning point in Solo's family .

    A deep crysis,and reaction on crysis.

    And it was many years before Ben's betrayal.

    I am honestly depressed that people can not see this clear evidence of family crysis that occured obviously when Ben was teenager. Some even "think" Solo's have lived happily until the time of Bloodline(6 years before TFA).The truth is diametric opposite.

    Leia herself says I repeat that time of sending Ben to Luke was start of desintegration of her family.

    Leia: "That’s why I wanted him to train with Luke. I just never should have sent him away. That’s when I lost him. That’s when I lost you both."

    Han: "We both had to deal with in our own way."
     
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    She realises the cries she heard were actually her own cries, as a young girl being taken away from her family

    J J Abrams
    (extended TFA DVD commentary)


    Rey was abducted child -confirmation!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Not necessarily.

    Reys parentage theories have many pieces of evidence pointing towards that one, however most of them (especially the ones that involve parents seen in TFA (Rey Solo and Rey Skywalker) have very weak explanations of how Rey ends up on Jakku with no memory of her family who she meets during the film.
     
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    The JJ statements is clear.
    Rey has been taken away from her family.

    It also means that those we see that left her on Jakku are not her parents.Or it may be and probably is that Rey vision is symbolic,she does not remember exact circumstances in which she was dumped on Jakku.Its clear that Unkar Plutt did not abducted her jet she sees him pulling her by the hand,which is just a symbol of her enslavement once she was left on Jakku.

    What is confirmed,repeat,she has been taken away from her family.(that means she was not left on Jakku by the decision of her family).
     
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    I am going sheepishly apologize. As I responded to your directly as opposed to context. You were using Kylo Ren's reasonings. That makes much more sense.

    But the context of the scene shows her trying to flee Plutt and get back on the ship. So "taken" here could simply mean separated by circumstance given that someone Rey is trying to get away from Plutt to get on the ship to leave WITH someone most likely family.

    So its an interesting word choice but isn't very compelling evidence.
     
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    My own interpretation is that they left her on purpose.
     
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    Come on.

    We can solve it.

    THE RIDDLE:

    She realises the cries she heard were actually her own cries, as a young girl being taken away from her family.

    J J Abrams


    I'm not Resistance. I'm not a hero. I'm a stormtrooper. Like all of them, I was taken from a family I'll never know.

    Finn
     
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    I posted my find, another new point of reference post 913.
    Rey Solo

    Similariity of Rey's memories of been taken away from her family,and Finn memories,which are exactly the same.

    Now about Finn:his story is an example,classic,of destiny of children abducted by First Order.

    First Order abducts children,compensating lack of manpower.

    It is practice started and mentioned even in the Aftermath Empire's end,and hinted in Bloodline.
    They need children to train them from birth,practice started by General Brendol Hux,father of Armitage Hux.

    Rey story has elements of destiny of that children.

    Any thoughts on this?
     
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    There is nothing to solve. Rey's parents are NOT in Ep VII ... That's just it and that's why every theory felt flat every time and people are keeping searching because if they search it is because they didn't find it. I mean just not here but every where ...

    The master piece of Disney is that they made all the fans looking at the finger while they were showing the moon.
     
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    Rey is just a random galactic citizen whose parents were killed by the FO so they could abduct her to become a part of there stormtrooper program then they stop at Jakku to recruit more children how ever something goes written ng & in there haste Rey is left behind which is what we see in her vision.
     
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    Thank you ,we have moved our understanding to a higher level.

    We established Rey has been abducted by the same pattern("modus operandi") of the First Order,destiny of countles children from the galaxy.

    Even this is making my effort so far in this thread justiffied and pushes us further than anyone in the understanding of Rey.

    But its not all, it is just a start.
     
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    But actually this theory is one of most documented I've seen, I like the effort :D

    The only one with more material is the one I did.

    But you're missing some crucial points with Rey. Every time, there's a link with Anakin and the breathe, the silent omnipresence of the breathe. Those are major clues especially when you hear the first words of the trailer of the last jedi ( I predicted 3 scenes of the trailer actually and there is a date stamp post to prove it on the thread ).

    I'm not selling my thing because I don't care if people buy it or not but there's a very long list of parallels between Rey / Anakin and Kylo / Vader.

    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/theory-rey-is-the-good-in-vader.11586/

    People can't pretend it is coincidence.

    Once you get confortable with the idea, it makes sense, it makes a lot of sense.

    MH: "George has talked to me about doing something at the turn of the century in the last trilogy, but it wouldn't be on the same plane of existence."

    https://moviepilot.com/p/mark-hamill-spoils-the-last-jedi-twist/4255394

    At one moment, he had the idea, not sure they did it, not sure they put the story 30 years later but they had the idea.

    I'm not really sure Rey's parents are important to the plot to come.
     
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    Rey and her brother Kylo Ren are more important to the plot than their parents.
     
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    I want to believe she is related to the Skywalkers, but I wonder if she was an abducted "Child Soldier" of the First Order, like Finn. Perhaps she never made it to the First Order and somehow wound up at Jakku.
     
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