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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.
  1. Yes,I think its perfection

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  2. Yes I like it

    13.0%
  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    14.9%
  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    18.1%
  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    41.9%
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    Unless there are reasons we don't know.
     
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    It is worn off pistol, 30 years after Lando sent it to Han and Leia as a gift for newborn Ben.(more of a curiosity,he sends them a main gift to --space yacht ).Pistol could be maybe even modiffied or imperfectly repaired over the years.

    Now,entire 10 pages of the book Lando clears Bespin of Imperial remnants using unique pistol, and thinks what to send as nuptial gift for Ben.
    He than decides ,at the end,for that pistol.

    It describes it as fancy,but it goes stright trough breastplate armor of stormtrooper(it looks like its deliberately mentioned as unexpectedly powerfull for fancy pistol).

    Why entire chapter of the book, that is clearly designed as a story about that pistol sent to newborn as Uncle's gift?

     
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    Like ?

    What reason can explain these deep feelings so well hidden ?
     
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    Guys,just remember of moment in Starkiller base, when Han talks with Finn.Than over Finn's shoulder Han spots Rey climbing.

    Please just watch that scene again,I watched it many times.

    Finn asks Han whatahel he is doing with chin,what does it mean.It looks funny.

    But.
    Han is speechless.He is speechless looking her.

    Han's instinct has awaken, telling him something.(he didn't had much time after that unfortunately).

     
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    Well, nah.

    You're making up things and put trolling rating when we obviously debunk your thing.

    I'm out of this. I only play fair games.
     
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    The enemy can read minds. That is the biggest. If you really want to protect the child of a high value target, keep her out danger long term. You 1- find someone you trust that the enemy doesn't think is close to you. Have them take the child but tell no one where. So if Han, Leia or those close to them have their minds read they have no worthwhile information. 2- You don't tell the child who she is. This sounds cruel but if a malevolent entity was stalking your first born from birth (a possibility) and they can read minds then her knowing who she is could endanger her later in life.

    It doesn't answer who they chose to watch over her what went wrong on Jakku but it does explain why it is secret, why Han warms to her, why Leia hugs her, and most importantly why they don't have a reunion. Because the secret still protects Rey.

    Granted Rey Solo at this point I think is a stretch but stranger things have happened.
     
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    Really ? When you had been raised like a princess, you give your child to ... Unkar Plutt and you just never come back whatever and this with all the guards you have as a senator or a resistance general ?

    What kind of people do that ?

    And they never got back to Jakku because the Falcon was there and Solo besides smuggling and swindling gangs was looking for the Falcon and definitely not for a long lost daughter.

    I'm not trolling, I just say what is on screen.
     
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    I must not be writing clearly I apologize. I proposed the secrecy as protection to illustrate why they don't have a reunion.

    I pointed out that doesn't explain what went wrong on Jakku. Meaning I was acknowledging that something beyond the information we have been given must have occurred. Any back story I give would be pure speculation. But why don't they have a reunion or act like they know her if their related because it is still intended to be a secret.

    If you need possible senario: Wedge and his new wife Nora left the NR with the new Solo baby and went looking for a secret place to settle down. They get a visit from an old friend Jazz Imari who is in some trouble. Wedge and Norra are compelled under duress to go on some mission to save Jazz but they don't make it back. Rey grows up on Jakku after losing the only family she knows.
     
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    No parents lose a daughter and go for the chancellor job, no parents lose a daughter and went hunting for Raghtars, no parents lose a daughter a teach on a jedi academy while baby girl is alone on a desert planet.

    That just doesn't exist even if fiction.

    I don't think I'm the only one to think this is not normal behaviour.

    And in your story, Solo and Leia are not Rey's parents they're her genitors not her family. A family isn't looking for a ship when they lost a child.
     
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    Personally, I think Rey is Luke's daughter. I don't think it defines her at all though. I think what will define her is she and Ben working together on bringing Balance of the Force to carry on their Grandfather's Legacy. I think the Skywalker name and where she comes from isn't at all what's important here. So, Reylo is true from a certain point of view. It's just not in the way many are expecting. She's the Light to Ben's Dark as they contrast the other in a similar way to Maul and Ezra in Rebels. They're a metaphor and more so the embodiments of The Ones, which started with Anakin, the Chosen One and passed on to his Daughter, Leia who serves as the Light and Son, Luke who serves as the Dark. A generation later the roles have been reversed in the offspring of the Daughter and Son where the Daughter had the Dark and the Son had the Light. Together ulimately they'll find the true meaning of Balance of the Force.
     
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    I am not sure this is worth talking about. I think Rey Solo is unlikely at this point. You seem set firmly against it which I understand. I tend to not rule possibilities out or in unless they are pretty firm. So this is at best as I have tried to suggest why they don't have the reunion you are talking about.

    But you keep going back to why aren't they looking for her. Because they didn't know she was gone. They sent her away in secret and so they could never be mind read themselves don't know where the protectors they chose took her. Because if they knew where she was they might be captured and the secret would come out. So they assume their daughter is living far off happy and safe not knowing where. So Han isn't looking for her because he assumes she is safely hidden. Again that diesn't explain who they trusted her with or where they intended her to go but something went wrong and she ended up separated from the only family she remembers her guardians and is stranded in Jakku. It hangs on protecting Rey by keeping her secret. They hid her birth, they chose to have someone else raise her never to know her because they didn't want what they were starting to see going wrong with Ben to happen with their second child. But to truly keep it secret from enemies that can read minds Leia and Han couldn't know where she was going. So if the 1st Order captured they the information couldn't be taken from their heads.

    Its convoluted and complex which is why I think its unlikely. Especially after Bloodline. I just rarely say never.
     
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    I believe that it is unlikely as well, but there's no harm in letting folks speculate as long as folks don't get heated.
     
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    Rey is Solo.
    As already stated tragedy happened when Ben was 15_she was abducted and it was believed to be dead. It was first phase of attack by Snoke.
    Ben went off control after losing sister and he probably never stopped blaming Han for her death.
    Leia sent Ben to Luke(she didn't wanted to train him but now was forced as a last resort)however she later admitted that was a mistake,he needed parents,father,not a Jedi training.(that made him even stronger weapon used by Snoke).
    Han escaped from family,Leia was strong and pushed politics,believing Force will give a strenght..Disfunctional family struck by profound tragedy.
    There is other option,Han and Leia worst parents ever.Still I believe it is best explained by profound tragedy.

    Bottom line:
    Anakin's saber was calling to Rey since she is family,that is evidence that puts any non-family theory in second league.
     
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    That isn't completely impossible but its just speculation. Not that its poor speculation but the evidence is lacking. Also it is weird for it not to have come up in Bloodline. Way to much introspection by Leia to not touch on daughter that died prior to the events of the book. And while Han and Leia are pursuing other goals they are in regular contact, Leia spends time imagining how great leaving politics would be and joining Han on the racing circuit. When he rescues her there is no sign of distance or tragedy. So while I agree that they have had some tragedy it looks likely that tragedy occurred after Bloodline and I think it is safe to say the tragedy is Ben's fall after which they have a harder break, Han is back with Chewie and is no longer making a living on the racing circuit. Now I have a feeling that when they have the harder split they might acknowledge they had been drifting for years but they don't seem to have dealt with distance between them.
     
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    I'm not for it or against it, it just doesn't fit with the movie I saw.

    I'm neutral.
     
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    Between Ben's birth at the end of Aftermath ,and Bloodline,there is gap of 23 years. Void.

    In the Bloodline ,Millenium Falcon is missing already obviously for years and not a single word how and why?

    In the Aftermath there is mentioning how Han loved this ship to the point he asked for MF to be reffered as "her", like its a living being not a machine.

    Jet no any emotion from anyone about Falcon in the Bloodline,especially from Han.Nothing.

    Why am I mentioning MF?

    Because it is a sign that in the Bloodline there is general emotional " silence"between characters.Its obvious to me.

    Yes Han and Leia exchange loving words(via hologram mostly),but their son is already not with them for years.Luke doesn't respond at all on Leia's messages.
    There is emotional (and story-telling)void absolutely detectable troughout Bloodline over a mask of normality.

    In the film Leia says she lost both Ben and Han when she send Ben to Luke.

    But that decision is already years before Bloodline,in that "emotional void".

    I see undeniable signs of untold family tragedy in the past with emotional silence over it.

    Millenium missing.Luke and Ben gone for years in separating circumstances for the family..Untold story behind that will be explained.Complex untold story.
     
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    Rey Solo isn't possible. Or rather, if it is the case then TFA was a farce.

    No one recognises Rey - through the Force or her appearance (including age & circumstances).
    Neither Han or Leia have searched for their daughter who, clearly, they can't have known was dead.
    Maz Kanata tells Rey her family is never coming back when Han is just upstairs. Sure, Maz could be wrong - but seriously?
    It has become apparent that not even Luke knows who Rey is.
     
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    Anakin's sword (family relic)recognizes Rey and calls to her.That means Force recognizes Rey.

    From my point of view if Rey isn't from Skywalker-Solo bloodline, than using strong family hints and Skywalker legacy centered around family sword, was a farce to give self-reflecting credibility to Rey as one which would continue the story.
    In other words in this case ,Disney has literaly"hijacked" Force and their "Force" enables them to justify any continuation they want.

    This thread Is expression of my contempt to such approach and I will not be satissfied with that .
     
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    If Rey is the biological daughter of Luke Hamill would never make the joke "I see my dau... I mean my collegue Daisy" (and it's clearly a joke, look the video) during the live panel of TLJ at the Celebration, sorry looks like Luke will never have biological children in the canon.
     
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    From my point of view it is certain that Luke will take role of spiritual father of Rey.He will be what Obi-Wan Kenobi was to him.
    Luke is ,roughly,Obi-Wan of new trilogy.
     
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