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REYLO - Potential Evidence For & Against

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Moral Hazard, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. NinjaRen

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    Kylo and Hux are destined to rule the galaxy together. How can you not see it? :p
     
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    We can only hope that Disney and LSL comprehend how implausible is Kylo-Hux triumvirate that should supposedly rule the Galaxy.
    I think even ReyLo is more plausible than Supreme Leader Kylo, and Imperial army under leadership of General Hux.
    I find, despite feelling contempt, more plausible to see Kylo expelled for incompetence of his rule and him desperately falling in the arms of Rey, than to see him on the throne of his eventual Empire.
    Those guys are simply not plausible rulers, even actors are such persons who are not suited for that role.
    It will be hillarious to see them 2 "ruliung" the "Empire".

    Realistic episode IX starting role should go:

    Episode IX

    Galaxy is in turmoil. Countles star systems are repelling
    implausible rule of Supreme Leader Kylo Ren and
    rabid cure general Hux. The Resistance is strugling with
    logistic problem of accepting so many volunteers.
    .......................

    :p
     
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    That's the point. Kylo will fail as leader.
     
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    Yeah, I agree!
    I can still imagine a story where he tries - he's still learning and it makes for good drama.
    I should probably use better English though.
    When I say things like “I can see” I'm mean it in a very broad way like “I can see a story where this could happen” as opposed to “I think this is likely to happen”.
    When it comes to narrative possibilities my mind is so open my brains are in danger of falling out! :rolleyes:
    By “awkward lesson” I'm referring to the circumstances whenever Kylo is training Rey. (Which I love BTW.)
    • You need a teacher”. He's practically spitting the words into her face like the fire-breathing dragon he is.
    • Your parent's threw you away like garbage and you can't stop needing them. It's your greatest weakness”. This delivered in that awkward pose, at an awkward time, with an awkward Rey.
    • You have no place in this story. You come from nothing. You're nothing. But not to me." I respect his honest and forthrightness, I really do, but I see some room to work on his delivery! ;)
    Edit: I can see I could imagine a scene where Kylo tries to give Rey an awkward lesson in the dangers of her attachment to her friends.
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    I'm really sorry that you've had to feel that way.

    Remember though, the staff and moderators all came here as fans, and as time passed, were selected to be part of the site based our their particular sets of skills in certain areas, but but even as such, we still have our opinions on all matters of Star Wars...but you won't find me telling you how stupid you are for believing something, as I'll either just walk by or at least engage you in a meaningful debate to try to understand your point. We still have opinions, but we're tasked in breaking up brawls and watching for the crazies...and we'll debate our opinions with you in the process. :)

    However with the likes of @Anubis78 in the house...him...I'll go out of my way any day of the week to make him feel bad about ANYTHING he believes about Star Wars...,.because he's a DAMNED TREKKIE...and I know him (please don't hold that against me)!! :D:D
     
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    Also, to be fair, this isn't a Reylo support thread. It's evidence "for and against".

    You're definitely gonna run into people here who hate that shipping, and they're not off topic for doing so.
     
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    By cold hard evidence:

    Against:
    Boyega (the actor who plays Finn) says JJ won't spit up Finn and Rey.
    So I read it's going to be Finn/Rey instead of Reylo at the end.


    Circumstantial evidence:
    A LFL employee had a X across Luke's face at his/her office showing how much they hate Skywalker. Kylo Ren is a Skywalker by blood (DNA wise). Therefore he cannot have happiness and deserves to be heirless and die alone. So Rey cannot end up with him.

    Personal feelings:
    FOR: I still feel Reylo fans are more enthusiastic and more devoted. They have the best wallpapers and fan works. They are also the H/Hr of Star Wars.
     
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    Are you saying that Adam Driver and Domhnall Gleeson could not pull off the acting required to be effective leaders if they were directed to do so?

    Those two are phenomenal actors, don't even go there, if that's what you're saying. They are portraying what they've been directed to portray in these movies.
     
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    Lylo Ren,
    When I read McDiarmid's post, I'm getting the gist that he thinks in order for Hux or Kylo Ren to rule the Empire efficiently, Domhall Gleeson and Adam Driver must have the qualification to rule Empires.
     
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    I'm sorry, but what?
     
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    please read your own post number 1428 and specifically the quote from McDiarmid
    After that, if you still have questions. I can only say, I'm sorry, but that's what I thought he meant based on what he posted about those actors.
     
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    Hux has been already ridiculed in the Film .Poe makes donkey of him in front of his forces, and Snoke calls him rabid cure, he also cries like a little b.... when unstable Ren crushes his throat,.
    And Kylo, actually...well why nobody noted that he acted unstable, unwise, in fact incapable to lead one single division on Crait?.
    (more...more..more.. Emperor?)

    certainly galactic Empires once had better "cadre."...

    Sorry, but that's true. We will must persuade ourselves that it will be plausible.
     
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    When you say "actors", I have to assume you mean the actors and not the characters. I have no issue with thoughts that these characters are incapable, but these are two of the best actors out there, imo, so that really stuck out to me if you were saying they couldn't pull it off if that's what was intended (which it's not).

    Let me just also point out that sometimes IRL people become leaders who are unfit, so it's not bonkers that this is what has happened or will happen in IX, etc.
     
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    We have no feelings, we are BORG. Resistance is futile. 320x240.jpg
     
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    Ok maybe I was not understood, not persons-actors. But the pictures of those faces of actors public have linked with their characters.
    Gleason was forced to make imbecyle faces to act some scenes...for instance.I liked him in his nazi speach in TFA before Starkiller base strike, now he was simply ruined as a plausible leader.
    Though, Gleason, a strange guy, said himself he is looking forward for his sharacter to be even greater court jester in episode IX .:confused:
    Adam Driver is nice man, but again they made him instable, frustrated, commanded by his impulse instead of his reason.He really does not look to me as someone who will be capable to conduct everyday "administrando imperium" duties.Nor he has authority, in my eyes.Besides he is to young( moreso infantile) for the Supreme Leader.
     
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    Damn it. Someone get the spray bottle.

    Shoo trekkie! SHOO!!!

    I bet JJ left the door open again while switching fandoms.
     
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    "Rey and Finn back together" = she will have scenes with Finn, which is obvious, John said that because in TLJ Rey and Finn are separated most of the movie.

    and there was no romance between Rey and Finn in TFA according to John Boyega, they're just friends, remember that Rose will be in 9 and that they won't drop the Rose-Finn romance, Rose has feelings for Finn and Finn has feelings for Rose according to the last moments of TLJ:

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    She's probably thinking about how everyone has someone but her. She lost father figure 1 in Han. She lost father figure 2 in Luke. She lost someone she thought would care about her in Ren. She lost Finn who was crazy about her but is now caring for Rose.....immediately following this, Leia comforts her. IE Leia is filling that void of belonging Rey has.
     
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    Oh I'm sure Force ghost Luke will appear to her in 9, Luke will always be with her.
     
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    But not physically and we don't know about her level of understanding force ghosts. She may not know Luke is able to do this. In this moment, she feels alone...until Leia takes her hands and consoles her.
    And tells her how great of a guy Poe is...
     
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