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Rey's grandmother?

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Olivia Kenobi, Jun 14, 2020.

  1. eeprom

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    Things work a lot better if the movies are treated as movies and the books are treated as books. Regardless of the sales pitch, each seem to exist as their own thing and not so much extensions of one another.
     
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    I totally agree, that's the ideal, but I feel like Star Wars could do this better in the Legends era. Now that everything in Star Wars is equally canon, the films can't just disregard the novels. In the past, the novels might have weird inconsistencies but you could shrug it off and ignore it later.
     
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    That’s pretty much where I’m at. The movies and narrative shows are what happened. The novels, comics, video games, coloring books, etc. are what ‘maybe’ happened. I know we were explicitly told otherwise - it all counts equally. But that’s not the impression I get. Anything that’s exclusive to these supporting materials could probably be overridden. That’s how I feel about it anyway. “Layers of canon” again? Sure, why not?
     
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  4. Olivia Kenobi

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    Yes! That’s exactly the way I feel about it too!
     
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    Not really, calling Rey's father a clone of Palpatine is an oversimplification. Her father is a strand-cast: a genetically engineered clone, and was gene-spliced. This is why he doesn't look like a younger Palpatine. It would be more accurate to say she is his granddaughter.
     
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    I think it’s much more likely JJ & Chris Terrio intended for Rey’s father to genuinely be Palpatine’s son. Palpatine could have knocked up some servant girl while he was Chancellor at some point between episodes 1& 3, would hardly be the first (or last) corrupt politician to something like that...

    I think the clone idea is probably more the story group and Dave Filoni’s doing. Dr Pershing in The Mandalorian is wearing a uniform linked to the cloners on Kamino. I’d bet good money the reason the Imperials are after baby Yoda has something to do with perfecting the cloning process on force sensitive beings, with the ultimate intention of bringing back Palpatine.
     
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    I really don’t get the Rey/palps thing going on. I never really understood the sequel ideology. The Prequel and Original Trilogy had a much easier understanding of what was happening. Just my opinion.
     
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    Honestly, I think that's because the filmmakers didn't know what was going on, either. Granted, Lucas didn't know the whole "I'm your Father" thing when he made New Hope, but by the time they finished Empire, the Original Trilogy had a pretty definite direction under one creative vision. As opposed to the sequels, wherein the second film (TLJ) doesn't really set up the final film (TROS) at all.
     
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    I know I'm getting off-topic here but.
    While I do really enjoy the ST, I think it would have been better served to have done a lineup that released like this:

    Ep. 6b = TFA
    Ep. 6c = TLJ
    Ep. 6a = {my ever hopeful film about Luke's Jedi Academy and the fall of Ben Solo}

    Ep. 7, 8, 9 = TROS

    Or something along those lines. I don't mind bringing Palpatine back (or take objection to any of the story lines that we got for that matter) I just feel that there was so much potential for story lines to be extended and further investigated. And while this format is 2 trilogies worth of ST content and they likely didn't feel that was an option at the time, they probably could have shot it in a LOTR style where you turn 1 filming schedule into 2 theatrical releases.
     
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    Yup, Empire really set up the Luke/Leia sibling reveal. Thank god for all that “definite direction” and “creative vision”. If George had just been making it up on the fly, movie-to-movie, he might have done something crazy...like have them make out...that would have been awkward ;)
     
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    I mean, it could be worse... it could always be worse:p
     
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    I assumed (because I read the Legends book - I forget the title nd I haven't read the RoS novelisation) that there would be female courtiers in the Imperial Palace that would sleep with Palpatine and be the "current" mistress. Kind of like the Roman Emperors had. It was more about social status than any emotional connection. I kind of see it has Palpatine's mistress had a child but because he wasn't Force-sensitive that Palpatine dismissed him UNTIL he discovered that his son's child (Rey) was super strong in the Force. That's how I saw it.
     
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