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SPECULATION Rey's lineage and the end of the Skywalker saga?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Protocol Droid, Nov 12, 2017.

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What does the announcement of RJ's new trilogy mean for the Skywalker saga, & Rey's lineage?

  1. Ep IX will be the last Skywalker saga film, & the end of the Skywalker bloodline (Rey Nobody)

    35 vote(s)
    41.7%
  2. Ep IX will be the last Skywalker saga film, but the Skywalker bloodline will live on (Rey Skywalker)

    18 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. There will be another Skywalker trilogy, w/ Rey carrying on the Skywalker bloodline (Rey Skywalker)

    16 vote(s)
    19.0%
  4. There will be another Skywalker trilogy, w/ Rey carrying on the Skywalker spirit (Rey Nobody)

    13 vote(s)
    15.5%
  5. Ep IX may or may not be the last Skywalker trilogy; either way, Rey is a Kenobi

    7 vote(s)
    8.3%
  6. Ep IX may or may not be the last Skywalker trilogy; either way, Rey's lineage is from the dark side

    4 vote(s)
    4.8%
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  1. TheBBP

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    The galactic timeline does not only consist of the timelines that we know of. All of this is without saying that his words about it were not about it being during the Old Republic, but were that he was not making Knights of the Old Republic. He said nothing about excluding those years as a period of time he won't work in.



    You'd do better to drop the condescension.
     
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    It's either a galactic wide story or an isolated one. If it is galactic wide then the Republic and Jedi would be involved. If it's an isolated one in the outer rim you could get away with telling a low stakes story - but that wouldn't work as a trilogy.

    This is Disney's big new Star Wars trilogy. It will be epic. It can't be epic if it is set in the 1000yrs leading up to TPM.

    Same difference. He's not going to get involved in eras where he is constrained by the stories that have already been told.


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    i think you're struggling with the scale of galaxies here.

    i think you're also struggling with what makes something dramatic and epic.

    keep it up though, i'm sure you'll get there eventually.
     
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    Spin me a yarn then, set in the galaxy during this time period that would be interesting.
     
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    New story, new characters, "go anywhere, do anything" does not mean "No Jedi" and "No Republic".



    This entire sequel trilogy is an original story in an era that has already been written about in non-canon stories. What makes you think that Rian cannot go into the past and tell a new story there?




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    Exactly. It likely means there will be Jedi and a Republic. So don't set it in a time where the Jedi had no enemies and the Republic was peaceful for a thousand years!

    The key phrase in the above sentence is "non-canon" ;)

    You're making it difficult...
     
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    so your lack of imagination means i have to go about making up the stories? i don't think that's how this works... however...

    what of the unknown region, a sizable splash on the galactic map that no one knows about?

    what if some young Jedi knight and their padawan went off into this region and became enmeshed in a crazy conflict beyond the known galaxy?

    see, it's not that hard. ;)
     
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    When most fans say "Old Republic" as in a time period, they are talking THOUSANDS of years in the past. You seem to have put galactic history into a tiny box that only fits what the films have discussed. The scope of the galactic timeline, even with the Jedi and Sith involved would be incredibly vast. We only know that the Jedi have officially protected the Republic for "a thousand generations" which would make that roughly a 25,000 year history (which far exceeds that window of peace). Nothing states how long the Republic, Jedi or Sith were around before that.
     
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    That's where you are wrong and Disney will shoot themselves in the foot for believing it.

    "I" am one of those "Old fans" that was here at the beginning, and THIS story is about the Skywalkers...it's what got me hooked, and it's why I have spent 40 years collecting memorabilia, and it's why I come back to see every film, but if you suddenly turn left, kill off the Skywalkers, and start telling me about how Watto's family was also FS...It'll be over for me, as I'll see the story concluded and go on with my life.

    I was excited to see R1 as it was a backstory to an event in the saga, and I enjoyed it...but I'm not "excited" to see the Solo flick...because of what it is...it's hard to explain. I AM however very interested in finding out what the premise is for RJ's trilogy, and while i'm betting that it won't be about the Skywalkers, I AM expecting there to be Jedi in it. All things being equal, if the Skywalker story dries up and the saga continues on, I'll be about as inclined to to keep going to see it as I would be to see "Friday the 13th: Jason gets married". I may still occasionally see a SW film, but the "Golden Era of SW" will be over, and the oldest core fans will move on.

    It's like cars; I build and restore classic american musclecars from the 60's and 70's...primarily General Motors products, and if you GIVE me a Chrysler product to restore, i'll sell it as-is and use the money to buy what I want..it's that simple.
     
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    Sold!
     
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    $2 billion, please.
     
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    eh. i'm an "old fan" too and if the next trilogy was about Finn in the Unknown Regions with nary a Skywalker in sight, i'd follow that path without hesitation.
    Star Wars has never been about the Skywalkers to me. they have had a big part in the saga so far, but the galaxy is much much bigger to me.

    Disney is raising a new generation to not need Skywalkers and i'm okay with that.
     
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    Apparently that's the difference between us, and I'm not sure what your definition of "Old Fan" is, but for those of us that saw this in theaters when it first came out (who were older than six), this story began with Luke Skywalker and opened up to the entire family. GL himself has always said that this is the story of the Skywalker family, and for those of us that we're there...that's what it is, and if it turns into something else, so be it.

    But remember; That fan that Disney alienates, (especially) disinterests, and turns away...isn't going to raise his kids on Star Wars like I did, and those will be fans never gained.
     
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    yes, i saw it in the theatre when it first came out 40 years ago. i get it: a lot of people think it's all about Luke and Darth Vader. not for me. never was, even though Darth Vader was always my favorite character.

    GL himself alienated legions with the PT. i ain't worried about what Disney's going to do next. they've already thus far won my trust.
    if they start making garbage films, that's another matter. but again, they have given us a whole new set of characters to play with here and very few of them are Skywalkers.
     
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    I really never imagined that you were that old...never occurred to me for some reason.
     
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    I haven't read the whole thread but I highly doubt this is the end for the Skywalker saga. 5-10 years from now we'll be toward the end of the RJ trilogy and however many standalone movies (which may be in the ST era)
    When you said this I heard

    Kylo Ren: Look how old you've become...
     
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    i am ancient and wise like Bendu.
    or old and stupid like Palpatine.
    depends on the weather, i think.

    : D
     
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    I almost feel like you missed the story...then what WAS it about for you?

    I don't understand how this happened either (other than the acting and the OVER-use of CGI) because it was the backstory that we'd been hearing about since GL outlined it in an interview in the 80's...It was what "I" personally waited for...to see how (and WHY) Anakin became Vader...but the OT is what got me hooked.
     
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    it was about a band of scrappy Rebels fighting a fascist terror that ruled the galaxy. i never weighted Luke as any greater than Leia or Han. i saw Luke's struggle with Vader as a microcosm of the whole. also, in broadest terms, it was about Luke's strength and purity of heart converting Vader to the light (or the good, as we would have said then).

    none of that makes it a Skywalker story exclusively. it's not about the people as individuals. it's about the archetypes and their whole journey.

    to me, the PT gave us something we didn't need, ever. yeah, i was mildly curious about the details of Anakin's fall, but in those days we just used our imaginations to fill in the gaps. it was no big deal not to have that story spelled out for us (and by "us", i mean my brothers and i who were all diehard Star Wars fans). in fact, i much prefer the stories i had in my head about Obi-Wan and Anakin than what we got. : o p
     
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