SPECULATION Rey's lineage and the end of the Skywalker saga?

You're embarrassing yourself.
You will also see that I suggested if the Skywalker is alive and not the hero then he or she would likely be the villain. At the very least their status would have to explained. If they're not involved, why?

In RO Luke is irrelevant. Leia isn't and she is in it. Vader is in it. The story takes place partly because of the actions of the Skywalker's. Thus the Skywalker element is explained in RO. Vader plus a roll. There just isn't a Skywalker hero at he time capable of doing much. Plus the story isn't on a large scale.

Now, if you want to make a good point, you have to show me a Star Wars film that is set within the Skywalker lifetime that doesn't include any of then or explain what they're currently doing in the galaxy.

I'll wait.

 

Omg this guy is nearly as bad as McDiarmid. Walk away lol or you will be here till you die.

 

Jeez.

No one knew Han (and he wouldn't be much help anyway). Luke was a farmer. Leia was contacted and she helped out. Vader was discussed throughout and played a role. The whole film is inextricably linked to the Skywalker story.

 

Yes, you're right.

Now all the same logic and reasoning applies to Rians new characters and Rey, Luke, Poe, Finn etc.... They don't know the characters, these new heroes are just a handful of the millions, billions, trillions of people int he galaxy. Why would they pick these few heroes to go meet and help out? Are they not busy with their own stuff?

Remember, Rey thought Luke was a myth. Why would these new characters, espically if this trilogy takes places 10-20-30-40 years after Episode IX, KNOW Rey is real, KNOW where she is, KNOW how to contact her etc.....? If Steve Rogers - Tony Starks personal friend - can deal with multiple flying aircraft carriers flying over and firing on New York without calling his friend and it works, characters with no connect to Rey (or whoever) what-so-ever not calling her for help will work just fine. Hell, if we can understand and accept that the Rogue ONe people contacting 3 heroes they don't know for help makes no sense, why can't we apply this same logic and reasoning to these new characters?

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its amazing how many people get this feeling when you asking them questions about their positions they can't answer.

And Rey would know Rians new characters how?

and you can stop with the "the empire was involved...." BS. I'm going dealing with your ridiculous, weak, meaningless cover for your original point being terrible.

 

You guys aren't writing the new trilogy, so wtf!
Might as well complain that Homer Simpson should be in an episode of Itchy & Scratchy.

 

In a new trilogy, if Rey is alive and the galaxy is threatened, a new evil rises, yet she isn't involved or mentioned - what will you be thinking watching that film/trilogy? Be honest.

 

What I thought during any battle scene in DS9. Or what I thought when there was no Han or Luke in Rogue one or Rebels. Or in Anakin-less clone war episodes. or what I thought when I saw this scene and no Ironman or Thor - geeee, this is really good (hopefully anyway).

and like I said, if you're incapable of that, I feel sorry for you, cause there are a lot of very cool and interesting brands out there you can't enjoy.

 

Because their story doesn't begin until AFTER THE EVENTS OF RO! Their story doesn't exist yet.

 

I rest my case. You'll be telling me you'd be fine if Luke and Vader weren't in RotJ next.

 

but the characters do.

However, going this logic. Rey Skywalker (sake of argument) being alive after Episode IX doesn't have a story, her story at this point will be done (maybe revisited, we don't know) so, no reason to include her. Her story post Episode IX won't exist yet.

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LMAO - you really have no argument do you? At this point your argument is - "I';m sick of the Skywalker Saga and I want it to end". WHich is fine, its your opinion.

However

1) Its not more valid then "I want 9 m ore installments to the Skywalker Saga (and I think tha tbothers you)
2) you get hung up on the benefit to Disney point.

 

Rey: "I need someone to show me my place in all this."

 

Its a wonder any of us have jobs...

 

so many ways to take that.

 

Right lets try a different angle. So you would set the new trilogy just a couple of years after 9. You wouldn't include any of the cast from the ST and would have it take place in a far corner of the galaxy which would be difficult for anyone to reach or make contact with. So your new characters are effectively isolated from previous events.

So you end up with a completely new story in a completely new environment with a completely new set of characters.

So answer me this one question; if the above is correct (and it should be be because that's what you have been saying)

what relevance does using the current timeline have?

 

I don't they they literally mean a corner really far away. Nor do the characters have to be isolated from events to not know Rey and co. Personally.

 

Bit you don't intend for them to be used anyway so my question still stands.

 

They aren't going to create another timeline where the existing and eu material don't "occure". If that's what you mean it's a none starter

If you mean does it have to happen post episode ix, of course not but it could and the potential it taking place in that era/time frame doesn't mean thenskywalker family is doomed.

 

I never said the Skywalker family was doomed, but I do think their story will end in episode 9.

I meant following on from events in the ST not establishing a completely new reality, I never alluded to that.

Bottom line is, it makes very little sense to start an entirely new story and attach it to the current saga. Its more likely that they will choose to go back to an origin story, ie first Jedi, first force users. They could go into the future but that's less likely as all they can do is increase the level of threat and tell pretty much the same story.

I'd be willing to bet very credit I have that RJ will choose to set his new trilogy in an old republic type scenario.

 

Depends on the story. Maybe the setting works better in a Galaxy that doesn't have one massive ruling Government like the Republic or the Empire. Maybe it works better if the New Republic is too busy trying to maintain their core worlds after the war with the First Order, allowing new regimes to rise to power along the outer rim.

Maybe the new trilogy will introduce new foes that will carry over into future Star Wars Saga films. Or maybe they want the hero of the new trilogy to interact with the heroes from the ST somewhere down the line.

Maybe they just want to tell a story during a period where the audience doesn't already know the eventual outcome - so, we are left to wonder what the lasting consequences might be.

Maybe they just want to stop hopping through time with every film, so the franchise can establish better forward momentum.

There are lots of possible answers. Rian Johnson is a talented and creative writer - I feel quite certain that if he wants to set his films in the current timeline, and not include the Skywalkers, that he's capable of doing that in a believable way. It's really not that hard.

 

For a time. But there is no benefit for them to give it a definitive ending.

Time line alludes to a new reality

It wouldn't be attached, it'd be separate. And do you reallythink there is only one story to tell?

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Job?