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SPECULATION Rey's parentage, do you still hold the same view you have going into TLJ?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Lord Skywalker, Jun 17, 2017.

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Are your views still the same on her parentage from TFA to TLJ?

  1. Yes, I still believe she is Luke's daughter.

    26 vote(s)
    28.9%
  2. Yes, I still believe she is still a random character

    16 vote(s)
    17.8%
  3. Yes, I still believe she is related to someone else (Obi-Wan, Han/Leia, other)

    13 vote(s)
    14.4%
  4. No, I used to believe she was Luke's daughter, now I believe she is random

    18 vote(s)
    20.0%
  5. No, I used to believe she was Luke's daughter, now I believe she is related to someone else

    7 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. No, I used to believe she was random, now I believe she is Luke's daughter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. No, I used to believe she was random, now I believe she is related to someone that isn't Luke

    2 vote(s)
    2.2%
  8. Other.

    8 vote(s)
    8.9%
  1. Darth Basin The Greatest

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    Now about that Skywalker legacy......

    Any1 else think its starting to b undermined a little?

    Anakin Skywalker's name not mentioned in 7.

    His lightsaber is now officially called Rey's. That's like Excalibur renamed as Arthur's.

    Doubts being cast that if he was the Chosen One at all.

    The concept of his soul divided into two parts.

    Hmmmmmmmmm?:cool:
     
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    I still hope she is someone new.
     
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    No the ST is still orbiting Anakin. Kylo wants to be Vader and Rey is heir to his sabre and likey to rise to be a hero because of her mentor Luke Skywalker.
     
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    Anakin wouldn't be mentioned.
    Kylo revered Vader, not Anakin.
    No one would dare bring it up to the General.

    The "chosen one" in Star Wars has always been murky.
    Just based on ANH, Luke is the chosen one.
    Based on TPM, Anakin is.
    Based on ESB, no, there is another.
    Based on TFA, Rey is the chosen one.
     
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    Lucas has repeatedly said Anakin is the chosen one. He didn't fullfill his mission toll Luke brought hom back.

    The ST is about the legacy of the Chosen one. Is the heir of Vader ir the heir of Anakin going to prevail.
     
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    I know what he's repeatedly said, but it's one of those things that was never presented all that well across the 6 films IMO.
     
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    I hear you but isn't obvious that if you know the creator's commentary.

    Anakin is the result of a vergence in the Force. When Qui-Gon said that the council immediately knew that he was saying Anakin was the chosen one.

    Luke was a new Hope. But when Vader turned back from evil that hope is not Luke is the Chosen one but thr the hope Luke brought restored the Chosen one to his mission.

    Now that balance (ever so tenuous) 2as restored the legacy of the Chosen one is up for grabs. Which heir the dark or the light wins the day.
     
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    I think, based on the OT, Luke is clearly the chosen one. 20 years later when the PT is added, Anakin becomes the chosen one.
    It's very fluid. As Star Wars has always been.
     
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    Was there a Chosen One at the time of the OT?
     
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    the exact words, I don't think so but the implications of 'A New Hope' and Luke's character arc suggest that.
     
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    Or even simply Obi-wan's words in TESB: "That boy is our last hope."
     
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    Yep.
    Everything up to the PT was really pointing at Luke as "the one" who will balance the Force etc.

    Then the PT changed that with Anakin being a Force birth etc.
     
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    He was the hope but for what. The idea of "brining balance to the force" was introduced in the PT. He was the Hope to stop the Emperor, and to continue the Jedi.
     
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    My opinion has not really changed much. Early on I thought Rey to be a Solo but as it got closer to the release of TFA I thought she would be unrelated to the Skywalker/Solo's. I still hold that opinion.
     
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    Well Luke don't exist without Anakin. Anakin created Luke. So Anakin fulfilled the chosen one prophecy by creating Luke who then destroyed the Sith by remaining in the light.

    Quick theory. Luke had a lady friend who got pregnant. Luke did not remain in the relationship. Leia however became aware of the twins she had, Rey and "unknown". Leia being afraid because she knew of the darkness growing in Kylo, helped Lukes lady friend Hide the children from Luke.

    Snoke however knew that Luke had created offspring and began hunting them and killed their mom in the process. Lucky Leia had hid the twins from both Snoke and Luke.

    R2 will eventually reveal all through a recording from Leia. Rey has a brother, Luke a son and daughter.

    Where is Rey's twin?
     
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    I'm paraphrasing here but shortly after the TFA came out Daisy was interviewed saying that Rey's background wasn't important, she was her own character, etc...

    Fast forward to post TLJ filming commencing and she was interviewed again, this time saying something along the lines of when she'd come out of TFA's premiere she was surprised to find that people didn't realise who she was as she thought the film had answered the question...

    You can go look up the two interviews for exact quotes but the fact is that they don't add up. My interpretation is that the second story is a Daisy Ridley retcon, post working on TLJ, and offers a "real world" answer to the question.
     
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    How are those in conflict? If she is her own character unrelated to any legacy characters, then she believes its odd people didn't get that from the film.

    The only way it would conflict is if she is related to a legacy character but there is almost no evidence solidifying that in the film.
     
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    She's Leia's daughter.
     
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    The full Daisy quote instead of the bastardized version:

    She's saying people should be focusing on where Rey is going, regardless of what her lineage is. The actual quote doesn't conflict with anything.
     
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    Apologies if my post wasn't clear - the second interview I was mentioning was directly in reference to Rey's parentage being addressed in TFA. Just looked it up:-

    "She added: “Then after the screening I went for a drink with my agent and everyone and we were chatting away and I realised that ‘oh, in their minds it’s not answered at all!’”

    “I’d love to see the look on people’s faces but with answers come more questions.

    “There’s definitely going to be enough to keep people going [after Episode VIII] for another two years!”

    So it appears we shall get the "who" (someone from TFA) reveal but not the "how" in the TLJ.
     
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