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Rian Johnson and Kelly Marie Tran Reveal Their Thoughts on Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker at the Oscars

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  1. SWNN Probe

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    Rian Johnson has not publicly commented on The Rise of Skywalker since its release, until now. So, what did he think of the follow-up to his Star Wars movie, The Last Jedi? He revealed the answer last night on the red carpet of the Oscars. The Star Wars questions didn't end there, as Kelly Marie Tran was asked about fan reaction to her limited screen time in the movie compared to the previous film.





    Rian Johnson attended the Oscars last night in celebration of his nomination for Best Original Screenplay for Knives Out, which lost to Bong Joon-Ho's Parasite (which was the biggest winner of the evening with three other awards). While he was there, he spoke with MTV News about Knives Out and what he thought of The Rise of Skywalker, and it turns out that he really enjoyed it.
    You can view the brief interview below:



    [embed]https://twitter.com/MTVNEWS/status/1226904409155739649[/embed]



    Fellow Star Wars alumni Kelly Marie Tran also attended the event as a presenter. MTV News' Josh Horowitz also interviewed her and asked her about her reduced role in the sequel, which was officially stated to be for technical reasons due to a lack of satisfying footage of Carrie Fisher to use for a subplot at the Resistance base. While Horowitz noted that there was disappointment from fans over her perceived erasure of screen presence, she said that she was grateful that she could be a part of the movie and that resolving a massive franchise-spanning narrative was more important.
    You can see her remarks below:



    [embed]https://twitter.com/MTVNEWS/status/1226895182785892352[/embed]



    It remains to be seen if we'll see Kelly Marie Tran's character Rose Tico in Star Wars again, as the plan and direction for future Star Wars films and stories has yet to be publicly revealed. Rian Johnson is still committed to developing a trilogy of Star Wars movies that have not yet been scheduled by Lucasfilm, but in the meantime, he is currently working on a sequel to Knives Out.



    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is still playing in theaters.



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    Good for them, both of them are pros. That being said, Rian Johnson should be pleased, the reason that TROS was so 'Reylo' heavy or so focused on the character arcs of Rey and Kylo. Was due to the fact that Terrio and Abrams thought that the best bits of TLJ were the quiet parts and the exchanges between Rey and Kylo. So they just capitalized on that and brought it into TROS. Johnson laid the seeds and as a result we ended up with two films that were rich in depth and storytelling.
     
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    In 10 years we'll still be wondering when is RJ's trilogy going to be scheduled, maybe then Star Wars Fandom will realize the unspoken truth... casual fans will careless. Although for me, TLJ was a great addition to the Star Wars franchise; however, it created a divisive fanbase, LFL and Disney are certainly aware of this. I don't see how Iger would approve of another RJ directed Star Wars, yet only time will tell... we'll have to wait and see. Maybe the success of a Knives Out franchise will turn the tide.
     
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    In ten years we will get the announcement that RJ will do a Skywalker sequel trilogy as they promised to him right after TLJ. :D
     
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    I think that TROS, both the story and BO, demonstrates exactly what Disney thinks of the divisiveness. They realize that most of the outcry is from a vocal minority, Who have appointed their opinions as being fiat. Just a glance of the complaints should be enough to tell you who should be taken seriously and dismissed.

    That being said, I think that the problem might be less with Rian Johnson, as the type of storyteller he is. I loved TLJ and I loved Looper (not so much KO whose mystery I figured out quickly), but it seems as if he is very good at character driven pieces. Which can certainly work for SW but he would have to include more action sequences.
     
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    I don't necessarily have a problem with RJ. I also enjoyed Looper and TLJ. The vocal minority has been heard no matter how small their voice might be. The analogy that I'll use is Ben Affleck continued to smile to the media and his fans that he was still Batman. We all knew the unspoken truth nonetheless we still had hope then Warner Bros. announced a new Batman in the role. I think RJ is doing a similar thing. He continues to say he is working on Star Wars yet no official announcement and he is now working on a franchise for KO. So after or in between KO he'll work on Star Wars? ok yeah... for me he's off the project until its Officially announced. It takes years to direct films so when is he going to do it? Who knows I guess we'll have to wait and see...
     
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    I think Disney blinked. They overreacted to some internet rage over TLJ. It's really easy to make internet rage look more pervasive and common than it really is. Twitter/Rotten Tomatoes are very easy to slam with fake accounts, fake reviews and endorses a mob mentality. I think it's obvious Disney wanted Epi9 to counter some of the base criticisms from those who disliked TLJ. It led to a disjointed and rather vacuous sequel as a result (IMHO).

    Given Episode 9 is coming in very short at the box office (even compared to 8), I'm hoping Disney learned its lessons. Don't listen to trolls, because just one troll can make themselves look like 100 trolls so very easily.
     
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    I don't know about that . I've noticed that the same trolls who don't like TLJ hate the TROS. I see the exact same kind of complaints. I think that people who wrote off TLJ decided that they weren't going to see this film. Sales don't equal quality, it is not uncommon for sequels to make less money than the previous films. Also let's face facts that many so called fans are really just fans of Luke and Han. If they are not in the films and doing what they did in the OT, people are not interested in seeing it. You can tell this by the nature that most of the complaints about TLJ stem from the treatment of Luke.

    TROS is not as 'quiet' as TLJ but it's far from a facile action movie. In fact TROS picks up many of the themes and threads dropped in TLJ and fleshes them out. It's actually a very intelligent film. If Disney had listened to the trolls. Rey would have been killed off. And Poe would have been turned into John Wick in space with his buddy hip hop loving buddy Finn. And they would have taken out the entire FO with their blasters. And Micheal Bay would have been the director.





    I was under the impression that Disney was placing films regarding the current timeline on the back burner for now, and those were the type of films in which Johnson was going to be involved in. And their next project was going to be something set in the distant past. From the era of the Knights of the Old Republic.
     
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    The only Star Wars sequel that made more than the previous installment was ROTS which made more than AOTC. The OT and now the sequel trilogy installments have made significantly less than the previous, take a look at boxofficemojo.com There have been sequels that have made more than the first installment but not in terms of Star Wars films. TLJ and then Solo is a good example; however Solo is not a direct sequel of TLJ, yet Solo was released 5 months after TLJ.

    Disney and LFL are focusing on Disney+ streaming service for Star Wars content the films are on a hiatus. The next Star Wars film is slated to appear in 3 years. We've heard rumors that it will be about the Old Republic or the High Republic era. So whether or not RJ is involved will have to be seen, I'll wait for an official announcement possibly at Star Wars celebration. I know that directors usually work on multiple projects at the same time, so RJ could be working on a KO franchise while working on the next Star Wars film but I really doubt that because RJ himself stated LFL doesn't know what they want to do as of yet in terms of the new Star Wars film. That is why RJ is telling the media that he is still on Star Wars because LFL hasn't decided what to do yet with the films. when they get their act together we will know.

    So KK promised RJ an entire trilogy before TLJ was released but things can change sort of like my Ben Affleck analogy :D
     
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    Mad props to the both of them. Considering all the crap they've had slung in their direction since the release of TLJ they've had every opportunity to lash out at people for it. Instead they've practiced a serious level of restraint and seem to hold no ill will towards a fandom that's, if I'm honest, treated them horribly.
     
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    Veronica, I don't to get into any kind of fight, but I just don't understand why the group of people who love Rey are any different than the group of people you point out.

    Just look at the quotes.

    Some people liked 2-3 movies (OT), and loved Luke and Han. You liked 2 movies, and you love Rey. You are not a SW fan (as you say), and from your point of view they aren't either (as you say).

    So, you have two groups of people, which are not SW fans, liked 2-3 movies, and love a specific character(s).

    What's the difference, and most importantly how would you react if Rey was radically changed ? Would you still be interested ? I'am not implying that their reactions are justified, but as they were once riding the wave and then went rock bottom, so may Rey fans do in the future.

    I think love and empathy is needed towards all fans, apart from the lunatics that give fandom a bad name.

    Again, this is all well intended. Just something to consider.
     
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    Or, maybe better, let's not try to label others' fan status.
     
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    Not sure what data you have to support this? What little data we have, shows the opposite. The fan reviews that were largely negative on Rotten Tomatoes became largely positive on Rotten Tomatoes.

    Ironically, the CRITICS score is much more indicative of box office success with this brand. The higher the critic's score, generally the better the film does overall.

    Over generalizing again, I loved Luke's treatment in TLJ, it made sense to me. Luke makes NO sense in TROS at all. Different complaints. We can't all be painted with such broad strokes.

    Rey was given a "reason" for her "Mary Sue" powers by conceding that they were gifted to her by an ancient white guy who was the most powerful of all. That to me, was clear pandering the idiots who go around using the term "Mary Sue" without understanding that terms roots or real meaning. It was very patriarchal, it suggests Rey was just a vessel of male power, perpetuating the old lie that all powerful women are given their power through the charity of men.

    Why is TROS more intelligent exactly? What an odd adjective to use to describe a film that's almost entirely exposition, that rehashed and retcons earlier films. I'm much more comfortable using the term "formulaic", as JJ reuses and rehashes all of his tricks and traps he used in his earlier work.

    Nobody is sure what the next film will be, Iger seems to hint that the main focus in spinoffs from the Mandalorian and using Disney+ as a launching pad, where the most successful SW brands on this platform then "graduate" to film. There could be a KOTOR film, but I doubt it, more likely you'll see a Yoda-trilogy of some kind as Disney tends to be pretty trendy in its business decisions and obviously Yoda-like toys are a huge hit with retailers.

    Marvel movies make substantially more money, I wager Disney will focus much more on those.

    I love the way you discuss these things, my apologies we do not agree on much, but that's the purpose of these forums.

    And heaven help us all if we all thought like I do. I am very jaded, old, cynical, somewhat dim Star Wars fan here, the first to concede so many of have more knowledge, awareness and ability to recognize and value good cinema.
     
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    We will just have to agree to disagree. Thanks for your input.
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    Not sure about the Affleck situation. I didn't like BvsS and didn't bother to watch Justice League. But I do see your point, management changes and situations change. If it really is a 3 year hiatus for the films it's unlikely that Johnson will be hanging around waiting in the wings that long. Although I don't see him saying no if being offered the directors chair again. But who knows? I would also be very curious to know what direction they will be going in. From the clips I have seen for the KOTOR, I think that it would be better as an expanded cable drama more than a film. But that's me ;).
     
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    As an avid comic book connoisseur, I've read so many versions of Batman and Superman so a dark Superman wasn't unusual for me, therefore I enjoyed BvS; although I had problems with it. The same goes for the Harley Birds of Prey film. The construction of the Harley film has problems but I l love those characters especially McGregor as the Black Mask. Different from the comic book version but enjoyable to watch. I think Gunn's The Suicide Squad will depict a genuine version of Harley.
    I do believe RJ will not turn down a chance to direct another Star Wars film but he may have to if his schedule isn't open for it. Cheers!
     
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