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HUMOR Rian Johnson calls out Mike Zeroh

Discussion in 'Rian Johnson's New Trilogy' started by Beauke, Aug 31, 2018.

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    It's just nonsense. Some people who didn't like TLJ have lost all objectivity when it comes to Rian Johnson. Zeroh has been full of crap for half a decade. That's why he's a joke. That's why they were joking about him on set.
     
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    R.J. attacking fans, generalizing all upset fans as either "manbabies" or "unhealthy people" or trying to marginalize a larger group of upset fans into a "small group of jerks" etc. But everyone's, of course, going to interpret these statements there own way I'm sure. Some here will defend him by claiming he was just going after trolls when he wasn't, but here are a few examples of R.J. tweets:

    June: http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/...ar-wars-fans-and-consumers-at-their-own-risk/
    July:

    These are only two examples of him having exchanges with people, and no, not all of these people were creating twitter accounts just to tell him to die, some were having intelligent conversations about why they felt he destroyed Star Wars in their eyes and he still came off salty and upset about the criticism. The proof is out there, all one has to do is use google to their heart's content or venture out into youtube, but to say it's nonexistent or to try to marginalize upset fans as "manbabies" or just "white men" or "racist" or "sexist" is baffling. (Something R.J. had a hand in by the way)

    I don't really plan to post anything else in this thread cause the cheering and justification of cyberbullying tell me many things about some who will go to any length to defend R.J. yet use a double standard to chastise those who feel R.J. has offended them with post TLJ statements. Mike Zeroh is "full of crap" so that's okay for R.J., a professional, to come out and say he and staff made a fan of Star Wars into a joke. It's not like Mke Zeroh isn't the only one theorizing sensationally about SW. People theorize sensationally up here on this forum. Do they deserve to be made a joke of on the set of a franchise they are fans of? Or directly attacked and laughed at because they think R.J. may no longer be working on the franchise? (Yes, I'm aware some of you don't see this as an attack, just like I'm aware some of you won't see the above small set of examples as scathing responses.)

    I mean that alone shows how R.J. attacks fans simply because he doesn't like something about them, but let's ignore that, cheer for it and justify it. Put blinders on about it because we want to stay in our little corner of the fandom and point fingers at other corners of the fandom.

    Yeah, you guys have such a high pedestal on that moral high ground you're defending...:rolleyes:
     
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    Zeroh wasn't picked at random. Another user told RJ that Zeroh the source of "Rian Johnson is fired" nonsense. The week before that hundreds of people tweeted Rian Johnson "I'm happy you're fired" based on Zeroh's false reports. I'm sure RJ was curious where all this was coming from and it had to be hilarious to him when he found out it was Zeroh.
    Nothing in your posts lays out a compelling case that Rian Johnson is attacking fans. In fact, that article attempts to argue that "John Boyega" is attacking fans. The entire thing is ludicrous.

    He called sexist/bigots "man babies." Unless you're a sexist/bigot you haven't been attacked. He mocked a infamous Star Wars tabloid YouTuber for always being wrong (which is true). Heck, RJ even apologized for doing it.

    The context of Rian Johnson's comments are clear. If you're upset that he's clearly calling out bigots it




    Just search Rian Johnson on twitter and look at the timelines of the people who hurl abuse at him.

    People are entitled to have their opinions, but it's subjectively absurd to continue to insist that Rian Johnson is attacking fans when the context is so clear.
     
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    MANBABIES omg that is soooooo GUD. HAHAHA. If you don't like TLJ and all you do is complain about it. You basically don't have a life. I say this because If I didn't like a film I wouldn't waste my time complaining about it i would allocate my time to films I love. That's why Im here I love all the Star Wars films. If I hated them I wouldn't be here. WAH,WAH,WAH,WAH, MANBABIES is an excellent description of these so called fans... WAH,WAH,WAH.....

    TO get back on topic, ZEROH IS A JOKE. Im not embarrassed to say I'm subscribed to him because when the actual film is released his commentary is rather good. Everything else is speculation. He did claim (click bait) on numerous occasions that RJ was fired but he doesn't have any real evidence to back himself up.

    I like RJ and I also I enjoyed TLJ, but even I believe that RJ is fired. I have no proof of this. Its just a gut feeling. Especially when he is now working on a new film with Daniel Craig. I can't see him working on 2 things at the same time when you consider he is working on a new trilogy. that alone is allot of work. I just don't buy it that he is working on both. Multitasking a trilogy is the wrong thing to do and I just don't buy it. Also I have a gut feeling RJ is trolling all these man babies because he is off the project and most likely has numerous offers. and most of all, Iger didn't even mention him in his recent statements which is rather odd.

    Iger didn't mention someone who is working on a new trilogy. Yes Iger didn't mention allot of things that are in the works currently, but it is extremely odd that he didn't comment on a new trilogy. i won't continue to repeat myself. maybe RJ will work on the trilogy after he is done with his new film who really knows...
     
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    Colin Trevorrow was working on two other projects while he was working on episode IX. Knives Out was probably Rian Johnson´s next film before he got the Star Wars call so I don't think it's that big of distraction. I also don't think Rian Johnson was lying when he said he was still working on the trilogy a few days ago. He simply wouldn't respond if he wasn't involved any longer.

    On the flip side I think the David Benioff and D. B. Weiss series is further along. The final season of Game of Thrones has been pretty much written for over a year. HBO is really dragging their feet on the last season by splitting it in two so they've had time to work on other projects. My guess more details about that series will be announced around Celebration. I'm not sure when we'll learn more about Rian Johnson's stuff. It could be some time before we learn more.
     
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    yeah, thats why he is no longer working on episode 9...;););)

    MANBABIES continue to troll...

     
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    That "manbabies" thing was about one specific troll in another account. At least try to check your facts before constructing a narrative for yourself.


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    I think "Book of Henry" being horrible mess had something to do with that too.

    There's plenty of time to finish that movie and go back to working on the trilogy. Let's focus on the official news, and not on the clickbait narratives of angry... manbabies :)
     
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    Despite what many believe there's was likely a loose idea for this trilogy. The final film sets up for a confrontation between Leia/Ben and Fisher's death totally changed CT's film. CT was very far along in the production process when that happened and the story had to change.

    His new version of the story wasn't accepted. It happens.
     
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    Thats my point! How can you work on multiple projects and make a good film? (horrible mess) let alone a TRILOGY at the same time :confused:. Well anywho, I hope RJ can do it... since he is STILL on the project.

    Wait a minute, does anyone know how many projects Jar Jar Abrams is working on while he is working on episode 9?
     
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    I've been saying it for months now and Iger's statement from this week only supports me: There will be no Rian Johnson trilogy. Oh sure, he may get a throw-away "Executive Producer" credit at some point in the future, but there will be no trilogy helmed/written/directed by Rian Johnson.

    Quite honestly, at this point, forget about a trilogy.... I don't even see him getting a single movie going forward.
     
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    I don't know how true this is, but Iger supposedly wanted to fire KK but he could not find a replacement. If Iger truly wanted to fired KK then RJ would have been gone too, since KK praised him and loves to work with him.

    So since KK is still on board, and about to receive a major award, Iger is slowing everything down to see how well episode 9 does. RJ's trilogy is possibly on the back burner and depending how well episode 9 does RJ's trilogy will be quietly shelved. The GoT Star Wars film will occur no matter how well or bad episode 9 does.

    I think Iger mentioned GoT Star Wars film because he has extreme confidence in the matter and did not mentioned RJ's trilogy because has no confidence in that.

    I want to say again, I like Rian Johnson and would like to see a RJ Trilogy but it doesn't seem plausible with all the backlash of TLJ and subsequently what occurred with Solo...

    TLJ made over a billion dollars at the box office and it was well received critically BUT IT HURT THE BRAND SOMEWHAT, i fear that is what Iger is concerned with.
     
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    Spielberg made Jurassic Park and Schindler's List in the same year.
    Rian's Star Wars trilogy is still in the writing stage.
    A non-FX heavy film takes a few months to make once it gets going.
    It's shooting this fall. It will be done by spring.
    His Star Wars likely won't start actual production until next year

    The Shape of Water filmed from August to November of 2016.
    Hell or High Water filmed from late May to early July 2015.
    Moonlight was shot over 25 days.
     
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    Nothing is going to happen until at least the next year, so I see no point in this constant search for clues and hidden meaning. Whether the trilogy is going to get made or not, it's not coming out at least until the 2020.
     
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    And even that's generous. If it's an FX heavy trilogy then it will likely be 2021 depending on the other schedules for films.
    I think it ends up:
    ep9
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    There was no statement about Rian Johnson or Jon Favreau. You simply read what you wanted.
    I'm all for speculation, but there's not a single legitimate source for this piece of internet nonsense.

    This is off topic, but this idea that there's some huge backlash against Star Wars is nonsense. A tiny minority of people didn't like TLJ. This is supported in the box office, scientific audience scores, and Blu-ray sales. Solo was a troubled film from the very beginning. There was tepid excitement, a huge production problem, a bizarre marketing push, and an odd release date. Then the film arrived to mixed reviews from the audience and from critics. You can't just ignore those problems simply because you didn't like TLJ and want it to be the reason.
     
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    Spielberg is one of the greatest filmmakers of all time. I doubt Rain Johnson can do as well as Spielberg let alone succeed.
     
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    The point being, it's not unheard of and it's much more common than you think. ESPECIALLY when one film is a noir type small budget flick. It's easy to do that.
    Your initial implication being that doing two films at once would DOOM them...not the case by a long shot and I just used the most extreme example.
     
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    I stated several times that I like The Last Jedi, Rain Johnson, and would like to see a Rain Johnson Trilogy but considering all the backlash, no matter how minor some people believe it is has hurt an RJ trilogy going forward.
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    Trevorrow worked on multiple projects at the same time and was ceremoniously booted off episode 9 and i believe he is one of Speilberg's proteges as well as JJ Abrams.

    Now no one has answered my question: how many projects is JJ Abrams currently working on while working on episode 9?
     
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    That part wasn't directed toward you. Sorry for the confusion. The general audience isn't paying attention to all this hand wringing. They liked TLJ and that's all that really matters.

    The biggest issue facing Lucasfilm isn't who is going to direct their next film, but how are they going to grow the brand in Asia? There's a chance by starting a new story from scratch they can have better luck. However, these nostalgia based films on legacy characters are probably dead unless the production costs can be lowered significantly.
    It's not clear why this is relevent. Your claim was that CT lost his job because he was working too many jobs is just random speculation.
     
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    OK...:rolleyes:
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    I don't believe that RJ is working on a so called noir type film ( that some consider EASY) while working on a GIGANTIC WORLD CHANGING TRILOGY. BUT THAT's MY OPINION

    Someone like Spielberg can but not CT, JJ, or even RJ who I think is a great filmmaker.

    RJ is still working on the Trilogy but is it greenlit... is it lit? :D Is it official?
     
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